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What would be considered the minimum wall thickness at the muzzle on a chrome moly barrel if I were to do a re-bore.
 
Posts: 288 | Location: AL | Registered: 11 July 2005Reply With Quote
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There is very low pressure at the muzzle so let your rebore guy tell you. Look at some double rifles; paper thin muzzles; I can get some measurements if you want but we have discussed this a lot, here.
I would just go for a new barrel; disclaimer; I contour and sell them. Mine have a muzzle OD of .660, so that gives a wall of .125; way more than enough for strength.
Balance and recoil will be the important factors.
 
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JES Reboring recommends at least .200 over groove diameter. The 400 Whelen has a groove diameter of .411 so you'll want a minimum of .611. Mine is .675 at the muzzle.


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My 450 NE Double has muzzle wall thickness of .080. That would make a single barrel very muzzle light, but not unsafe.
 
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not to sure i want a rifle shooting heavy bullets to light weight
 
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It has two barrels and most of the weight is in the middle; that is the way English Double rifles are designed. So they need thin muzzles to get the right balance. For a bolt action, obviously an .080 thick would be too light at the muzzle end.
The OP asked for "minimum wall thickness". That is not all that needs to be considered.
 
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I was just trying to ascertain what minimum was for safety. I do like a little muzzle heavy balance in a bolt gun. Had the thought of re-boring an FN 30-06. I now know the muzzle diameter and would have to cut barrel back to 22" to have enough meat at the muzzle. I think this was just a pipe dream so to speak.
 
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Just for safety, they can be just thick enough so the rifling doesn't show through. Chrome moly steel is very strong. Look at the experiments done by Whelen on Springfields; and those were not even chrome moly steel.
 
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I’ve seen 9.3x74r double rifles with muzzle wall thickness down to .065”...just for reference.


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Minimum thickness of a contoured blank vs minimum thickness for a rebore are going to be different.

Most that rebore have told me they will not rebore a barrel with walls less that .125" to .150" thick. If contemplating rebore, go straight to the source and ask what their minimum is.




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I don't blame them as they don't know what kind of steel they are dealing with, whereas, a new maker has complete control over that.
 
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I don't blame them as they don't know what kind of steel they are dealing with, whereas, a new maker has complete control over that.


I'm told it has more to do with the rigidity of the setup for the boring & rifling process than safety concerns. Makes sense to me.




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