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I've had a Milwaukee 12v cordless for about 12 years and picked up one of their new 18v cordless drills about a year ago. I relied on my 12v for seven years as a carpenter in high school and college and it never missed a beat. I estimate that I have driven 200,000 or more screws with it! The new 18v model that I have drills .5" holes through .25" steel plate like butter and the batteries last much longer than any other cordless I have used. By the way In my current employment I use this drill on a daily basis along side others who use the yellow brand as well as Ryobi and a few other brands. None of those drills can keep up as far as outright power, duribility(I've dropped it from heights of five to 10 feet with no apparent effect), and battery life. It also has an all metal chuck that is head and shoulders above any other keyless chuck I have seen or used. And, this is a big in my opinion, the motor has replaceable brushes. As far as cons go Milwaukee tools cost a bit more up front and my 18v drill is a little heavy. However it is very well balanced and the reversible battery pack is useful as well. |
| Posts: 1244 | Location: Golden, CO | Registered: 05 April 2001 |
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| An 18V Dewalt. Have used both Milwaukee and Dewalt, and the Milwaukee's sit in a drawer in the shop. You can get the Dewalt with an all metal chuck as well.
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| Posts: 2659 | Location: Southwestern Alberta | Registered: 08 March 2003 |
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| I've used Makita, Dewalts, Ryobi and Craftsman. My favorite is a top of the line craftsman - if it breaks they will fix or replace it. I use it Daily at work and so far Zero problems......DJ |
| Posts: 3976 | Location: Oklahoma,USA | Registered: 27 February 2004 |
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| You THINK they will replace it, their warrenty only covers HANDTOOLS not measuring, power, consumables (bits etc). |
| Posts: 2124 | Location: Whittemore, MI, USA | Registered: 07 March 2002 |
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| Tailgunner, They have a one year warranty on the power tools, and not lifetime like the wreches, etc. |
| Posts: 4917 | Location: Wenatchee, WA, USA | Registered: 17 December 2001 |
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| I've had 1 Craftsman Vacum that over a period of 4 years of heavy use had 3 motors, and 2 sets of wheels replaced under warrenty.........DJ |
| Posts: 3976 | Location: Oklahoma,USA | Registered: 27 February 2004 |
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| dj, I was just taking that off the sears web site for warranty on hand drills. I just bought a set of them not long ago. Typical of me, I went to get a cheap drill (not cordless), saw one for $19.95 and then saw a cordless model for $30. Of course I thought, now that would be even handier, no chord, wow. Then looked at the super doooooper model. Then I saw the Binford 40000 Turbo. Damn, I was in love, had to have it. Then I looked at this box of the same model in the aisle, it had every known tool that was ever invented in a chordless version and some that I will not mention in case there are children present. It was only like $189.99 and had been $220. Now those are tools. Of course I bought it. I did not get the optional axles and traler hitch attachment. They just had 8 guys load it in my Explorer and I drove it home (drastically reduced fuel mileage on the way). |
| Posts: 4917 | Location: Wenatchee, WA, USA | Registered: 17 December 2001 |
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| I've used Makita, DeWalt, Porter Cable and Milwalkee, plus my wife's little Sears jobbie. If you just want one to run around the house tightening things, I'd get another cheapie. You can buy four for the price of a good one, and you'll probably only need three. For more serious use, I liked all of the above but the Makita. Their batteries sucked, but I think they've remedied that now. Maybe the Porter Cable was my favorite, but it has a smaller battery than the 18v DeWalt. Means you recharge it more often, but I like not lugging that brick around everywhere. Oh, and the chuck on the DeWalt is definitely better. Just go fondle some of the name brands, and see which one speaks to you. You won't go drastically wrong. Just spend some money on it this time, eh? |
| Posts: 2000 | Location: Beaverton OR | Registered: 19 December 2002 |
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I've used both Makita and Dewalt for work and home. The Dewalt seems much better for serious use, but the makitas I have are just fine for house hold chores. What I find to be a crime is the price of replacement batteries.
Hey dempsey, Almost my same exact experience. We really like the cordless stuff for putting up Deer Stands and the Makita's have been pretty good.
I had a real nice 12v B&D for "light duty" stuff. Plugged it in a couple of weeks ago in the Reloading Room. Not sure why, cause I normally plug it in out in the garage. Apparently it was time for it to go bad and I lost both the charger and the battery. Thank goodness I was in there with it, or there could have been a fire.
Called B&D/DeWalt to see what it would cost to get them replaced: PS130 battery $26.47 and PS160 power supply $10.60 or $37.07(plus DEMOCRAT TAX)
Before I could go get the stuff, a S.C. buddy called and mentioned he had just dropped his 12v cordless off the top of a garage onto concrete and "rearranged the design". He said he had to go get another $9 - 12v cordless drill while the Tool Show was in town.
Needless to say that got my attention and I had to ask just what he was talking about. Come to find out, there is a company called "Homier" that imports tools from China. You can go to www.homier.com and see for yourself. 3/8" 12v cordless is $9.99, the 3/8" 18v cordless is $12.99 and a 1/2" 18v cordless $39.99. They come with the charger and I think the 18v models all have a case.
Didn't particularly want a drill made in China. Got to looking at the old B&D and clearly printed on it was "Made in China". Well Duuuuuhhhhhhh!
Went to Home Depot and looked at a whole bunch of other drills and quite a few had "Made in China". I remember the B&Ds, DeWalts and Rigid ones in particular, but there were others.
And I figure they were ALL made in the same place as the Homier stuff. So, you can order direct or wait for the Tool Show to come to town. I'm waiting for the Tool Show.
Apparently Harbor Freight has the same exact tools as Homier, but at a bit more cost. I looked at their drills and the Part#s are even the same. I really doubt they will hold up like a Milwaukee or a Makita, but for the price(and on my buddy's recommendation, I'm probably going to try one of each(a 12v & 18v) - at less cost than just the 12v battery for the B&D. But they won't take dropping 14' onto concrete if you need that ability! |
| Posts: 9920 | Location: Carolinas, USA | Registered: 22 April 2001 |
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| Since I own a Custom cabinetry company and we rely on cordless tools every day I can definitely give two thumbs up for Panasonic cordless drills using the 15.6 battery pack same torque as most 18volt drills battery charge lasts longer and comes with a 15 minute recharger.
We have been using them for about 15 years. |
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| I still prefer the corded drill and a long extension card in some cases..I do have a Makita, but don't like it..I just work in the shop so it doesn't make a lot of difference...but I should get me a good cordless I suspect. I will let this thread play out and maybe accept it and buy a whatever the poll shows.. |
| Posts: 42213 | Location: Twin Falls, Idaho | Registered: 04 June 2000 |
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| As an electrical contractor, I use lots of battery drills for my work. My shop owns about 8 of the Makita kits and they have served me very well over the years, but now that I have so darned many of them in my inventory, I'm kind of reluctant to change over to any other brand. However, I cheated and bought a couple of the Dewalt drills, and for my truck, I bought the whole Dewalt 18V kit with the drill, circular saw, and reciprocating saw, and flashlight. That darned kit gets all my use now, and the Makitas stay home, especially after having to replace a couple batteries. I use them primarily in my shop now for little odd jobs and only take them on the job for back up duty. I've used a couple Panasonics also on a few jobs, and if I had it to do over again, that is what I would invest in. Smoother running, better chucks, dependable, and lots of power for the size of the unit. However, I doubt they would run a 7/8" ship auger bit through 2- 2x4's like my 18V Dewalt will in a pinch. - Sheister |
| Posts: 385 | Location: Hillsboro, Oregon | Registered: 22 May 2002 |
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| I will second what Reed said, the Panasonics are great and have the best battery life seems like.
I know people who use and like all the major brands. |
| Posts: 2341 | Location: Moses Lake WA | Registered: 17 October 2000 |
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| What do you want to use it for? 18v have lots of power, but they weigh a ton. If you will drive lots of screws, from a ladder, at odd angles, left and right handed, reaching around blind, the 18 volt will wear you out. But for building a deck, the power is nice.
I'm in hvac. When I installed, I used a 14v Porter Cable. I got it rebuilt, free from a supply house as a promotion. It lasted three years and a zillion sheet metal screws. And, I loved the flashlight that came with it. Very bright and long battery life.
Now I do service only, and I use a 12v Makita I got 4 years ago used on Ebay. It doesn't turn the rpms of the two speeds, but for removing panel screws and misc. drilling its fine. And its light weight and small. I can easily fit it into my tool bag and climb a ladder.
Please stay away from Sears. |
| Posts: 582 | Location: Western PA, USA | Registered: 04 August 2003 |
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| Sears drills are ok, batteries tend to die fast and refuse to charge when hot. And replacement batteries are over $50. Milw, Makita, Dewalt, Rigid and PC are the more 'commercial' use drills. I was eying up the Rigid drill/saw/sawzall/light kit HomeDepot has.. has a dual 30minute charger. I think thats the one with a deal for a free 3rd battery in that flier. The kit is also... well over $400 |
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| All this brand loyalty in drills is amazing, you'd think we were talking about scopes or 30 cal mags........DJ |
| Posts: 3976 | Location: Oklahoma,USA | Registered: 27 February 2004 |
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| went drill shopping today and ended up with a 24V Craftsman Comerical mod. it has a all steel chuck, 2yr no fault replacement warranty that covers batteries and charger as well. 600ins lb of torque, 2 batteries & charger. $179 it's heavy, but it'll drill 1/2" hole in 1/2" plate without a strain. |
| Posts: 169 | Location: Never where you think | Registered: 03 February 2004 |
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| I personally think dewalt is junk, just a rebadged black and decker. Me and my buddies have put dewalt to the test, his drill has had the transmission replaced twice, amonge other things, my sawsall has went belly up, and all my batteries are shot, and that is not from over use, they never lasted near as long as my milwaukee. My vote would be milwaukee I have put their tools through hell and never seen a failure, oh yeah one last thing, I absolutly hate the way dewalt batteries fit on, they get stuck or fall off unexpectatly. |
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| OutlawMk26, Take a long look at the 15.6V Panasonic. It has a longer amp/hour rating and nearly all the tork of the others listed. Most of the outhers mentioned are also quite good. |
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