Would this be too brutal? I like this idea for the rifle I'm working on, but,,,,,,,,,,

Thanks
Terry

Mine has a hard plastic buttplate, not bad.

I agree with fla3006; I have a Stiga 9.3 x 62 that weighs about 7 lbs all out. It has a hard butt plate and shooting it in a light shirt isn't at all painfull.

Form follows function, and while a rubber recoil pad doesn't look as nice as a checkered buttplate, it's a heck of a lot more functional, especially on a rifle such as a 9.3X62. If cosmetic details start getting in the way of functional considerations, it's time to rethink things.

I know a guy who just couldn't live with a rubber pad on a 338 Winchester he had built, so to tame the recoil he had a Pendleton muzzle break installed instead. The rifle was very pretty and very fancy, but from a functional standpoint looked it looked like and was a joke, and whatever cosmetic gratifaction he gained with the steel buttplate was lost to a much greater degree with that ridiculous ported break......

At what price cosmetics?

AD

I can't disagree about function. They don't slide around when stood up on a hardwood floor, either. But if one wants to keep a particular rifle unaltered then that's a form of function too; the collector's function.

OTOH, the question was "is the 9.3 brutal with a steel butt plate". The answer for me is no; someone else might disagree on that point as well.

Agree with tiggertate and fla.
My R 93 Offroad does have a rubber pad, but it´s more like a steelplate when it comes to reducing recoil.
I cant fire a whole lot of rounds from the bench without starting to think about recoil, but shooting while standing or when hunting it doesnt bother me.

I always use steel buttplates on my 700’s so if the bolt handle falls off I can butt stroke the animal to death!

Damn

Rick I would post a lot more if i could come up with the witty replys you do--just loved that finishing them off with the steel buttplate

At a bare minimum the rubber butt can reduce the risk of slipping and creating a safety issue.

I really don't like anything on the butt that isn't rubber.....and the 9.3 X 62 IMO deserves a decelerator pad artfully installed.

“I really don't like anything on the butt that isn't rubberâ€

Boy...I wouldn’t touch that line with a ten foot pole!

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Originally posted by Rick 0311:
“I really don't like anything on the butt that isn't rubberâ€

Boy...I wouldn’t touch that line with a ten foot pole!

Disappointed???????

I have a near mint German sporter, a very fancy piece, from the late '20s with a beautifully checkered genuine horn buttplate on lovely wood. I always use recoil pads on my hunting rifles, but, this one, a minty Brno 21 with nice wood and a couple of others that are rare and original I have left with original hard butt plates. I do not find the 9.3x62 in this rifle especially difficult to shoot and the 7x57 in the 21H is a mere kiss, but, if I get the Brno 21H action I salvaged made into a 9.3 for hard hunting, it will wear a Pachy Decel.

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Originally posted by vapodog:

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Originally posted by Rick 0311:
“I really don't like anything on the butt that isn't rubberâ€

Boy...I wouldn’t touch that line with a ten foot pole!

Disappointed???????

Not at all...If Rock Hudson would have followed your creed he still be around!

My 9.3x74R double rifle drilling has steel toe and heel plates, weighs 8 5/8 lbs., straighter than the usual German stock, power just about the same as a 9.3x62. Kicks more than it did when I was younger but is quite bearable offhand, gets wearing from the bench even with a padded shooting coat.

TC,

I've got a steel Butt Plate on a custom Ruger No1 in .270 Winchester and for me I can pretty much draw the butt plate/rubber pad line about right there. My 9.3x62 has a B&C synthetic stock and it shoots very pleasantly with the rubber recoil pad from any position including the bench.

I can understand the classic wood stock with all the cool amenities but.....from my POV I'd consider a Pachmayer Old English .6" pad on the 9.3x62 as the right choice.

My 9.3x62 sports a hard red Silvers pad which works well providing you're in the forest in cold weather with a lot of clothes on.

On the range I use a past recoil shield, were I to go to Africa I would get a leather covered Decelerator.

It takes very little hurt indeed to start a flinch. Flinches take a hell of a long time to train away.

Well, I talked to Roger Biesen yesterday and he after a little meassureing he said I didn't have enough stock to fit his plate on anyway. So I guess it's settled.

It'll be rubber.

Terry

I am fairly recoil sensitive so I use a slipover leather Past pad and a Past shoulder patch when shooting ANYTHING from the bench. I hav been attracted to Neidner buttplates since gunsmith school because they look so RIGHT on a nice stock. Only have one on the 7x57 Clay Nelson built for me a couple of years ago. Worked fine on my last trip to Zim. Have a 257Roberts in the works now on a Mdl70 but the stock style I like (Dave Millers Classic) does not have enough wood for a Neidner so will get a Decellerator as All my other guns have. They are good looking in my opinion but of course in the final analysis that is the only thing that counts "my opinion". And I'm not humble about it.

I love the look of a steel plate, especially skeleton. However, they are a real problem on a using gun, along with checkered butt shotguns, palin plastic plates etc. You can't set the gun anywhere safely. I totally agree they shouldn't be replaced on a collector gun. I think the best solution is the lace on leather pad mentioned.A thin one will take the bite out, not affect handling if you get acclimated to it, and will protect the back end of the stock which sometimes takes a beating around the heel and toe. Don't leave them on permanently; remove when the hunt is over.

Form meets function, can't argue that, and a Neidner type butt plate is form and function personified..It gives a rifle a feel and balance of its own. A recoil puts the gun out of balance IMO....

I would not hesitate to use a 9.3x62 with a steel buttplate, My old .375 had one and I never noticed it...It is a problem when standing the gun upright on a hard surface, but like Art said a slip on pad works well...

As Jack Belk always said, " A recoil pad does nothing more that give the gun a running start at your shoulder"...That just may be right.

A steel butt will certainly teach a bunch of you how to hold a rifle properly, something few do these days...If that gun is pressed tight into the shoulder with the right hand and left hand, then all you get is a push as opposed to a "bounced thumping". Most importantly, what works for you...

I personally would use a lot more fine steel butt plates, but they are more work to install and unappreciated on most guns, We are a world of wimp hunters, soft of body and mind, creature comforts rate high among us these days! That's your daily lecture!!

Yeah!!!!!!!!! What he said.

Buttplates:

Skeleton steel= most beautiful, real class touch on a safe gun, impracticle as hell on a hunting rifle. Just too much babying in the field or the checkering gets chewed up. I like them always have, but there are better places to put dollars on a custom rifle.

Steel= may favorite buttplate on any fast handling rifle. I like the top rounded a little with a tang the best, similiar to the Nieder's. These handle the best for me, don't get caught on clothing, and get into my shoulder the quickest. A straight steel plate is OK to but if a am building or changing I want the tang.

After many years of shooting; when a rifle with a steel plate beats me up, I look to whats wrong with the stock layout first. The reason usually lies in the stock design not the buttplate.

I don't have a really large recoiling rifle with a steel plate, but I doubt it would be any worse than a shotgun type pad, they just suck bigtime.

A rifle with a steel plate is great aid when climbimg on an ice slope or out of a ravine. Rubber pads are ok over undulating ground.
I've just ordered a 9.3 with a rubber pad. I don't intend to use it in the mountains other calibres are better suited to that.

Hi oldun, what have you ordered - as one of the hard-core 9.3 fans in NZ with 9.3x64 and a couple of 9.3x62s I'm most interested, especially as I've had unhappy experiences with a couple of new factory rifles in 9.3x62? Charlie.