The express sight on this Ruger blocks the view of the objective bell of a scope. Since the caliber is 270 Win. a 20 mm objective is not the first choice.

I was thinking of filing part of the fixed sight down. It would still support the leaf from recoil then but not be in the way. I looked in Brownell's and could not find a suitable sight. The base of this sight is much wider than a conventional dovetail at .950"

The primary feature of this rifle is it's looks. And due to the permanent ramp on the barrel and the caliber a suitable scope situation would be appropiate. The mounts are of the high size as well now and with some adjustment medium mounts might fit. The present scope is a test rig only as it's kind of big for this rifle. A 2.5-8X 36mm might be nice.

Any suggestions would be appreciated.

I can't help, but hey thats a nice piece of wood.

All though you could look for a used Leupold Vari XII 2x7 Compact, might clear a bit more and I've always been fond of this scope as it seems more proportioned to a hunting gun rather than a lot of scopes that look like they belong on a varmint rifle.

What about taking the existing blades out and having a 2 blade folding setup made to fit that base? I am sure that any of the metalsmiths here could take care of that for you.

Only thing I can think of personally. Weird to have a 270 with a ribbed setup like that huh? Custom gun?

Red

How unrealistic would higher rings be? Seems that if you still get the required cheek weld then that would be the easy way to go.

The folding blade sounds like an idea too.

The rifle is a Ruger M77 Express. They were/are (?) made in 375 HH etc which of course is the correct type of chambering for this type of express sight.



I just bought the rifle for it's looks and am trying to improve that by getting the right scope on it without the objective being blocked. One can see quite well out of such a scope setup but it does not look right.



Here is one for sale

http://gunbroker.com/auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=17028829

Ignore the blockage. It does not seriously affect operation.

Your right Don but it's a matter of fussing over it. The pic. below is with a 2-7 and lower mounts and it looks ok.

I am going to leave it like that for now.

Savage,

Is that the factory wood on that Ruger? It looks beautiful.

Dave

Dave T,



Yes it's factory wood. It's one of the most spectacular pieces of wood I have ever seen. That's the only reason I bought it. I am now motivated to learn to use my camera to make better pictures.



That stock has personality. The eye just goes to it and is pleased.



The dealer I bought it from embarressed himself. The tag price with rings was $950. While I don't deal sharp I did make a polite offer of $900. There was no response but a lot of talk of how many Rizzini's he sells and how rich his customers are.



I then asked "what if there is something wrong, can I bring it back" He rose up and said that was a RED flag. That the gun was $900 "where is as is, take it or leave it" Now I already knew I was going to buy it anyway at $950 and now I had painted myself in a corner. On top of that he made me go out to a bank and get $900 cash and he writes "where is as is on the slip"!



I was told that the "rich" owner only fired it a couple of times and it was "new in the box" (sort of). So I get it to the range and it misfires 2/10 times! Measuring the firing pin protrusion and it's a lot less than another M77 that's here. I was able to put the pin in a collet and face back the pin's shoulder just the right amount so it's reliable now. Ruger would fix it but it might get damaged in shipping or lost. It started out shooting 1.5 MOA with light loads and now it's improved to about 1 MOA.







Here is a pic. with a 2-7 and low mounts on it. I am all set on the folding sight for now. Just to take the stock off and slick the trigger next.

I've got a 3.5-10x40 Vari-X III in Burris rings on my 416 WBY. I can just begin to see the front blade on 4x or so, but can't see the rear sight. It disappears on higher powers and is almost not noticable at the lower edge at low power.

With the Ruger rings, my objective had about .010 clearance is all, so I got the Burris rings so I could use the Butler Creek covers. Even with it low the blade was no more visable though.

Nice wood! And a sweet deal too.

My trigger works nice at about 2.5 lbs. now, no creep! Sweet!

It single feeds rounds VERY smoothly also.

Brent,



When the 3.5-10 Leu was on it the look was not right. The scope is just too big proportion wise to my eye. Now there is an old Leu 2-7 Vari-x 11 on it and it's all set for now. As you said at low power the front sight shows up.



Is your rifle an "Express"? The ramp is similar but you have two rear sight leafs and I have only one. What cartridge is that or is a mortar shell?



I think I will leave the Ruger mounts on this rifle for looks. I do favor Signatures however.

It was originally the 416 Rigby, Magnum Model I believe they call the Rigby's and such. I think the Express Model isn't made in the Rigby, but I'm not sure what the difference is. MKII Magnum Express, maybe that's what they call it, but I believe they are two seperate models?

Anyway, mine is a newer one, has a slightly lighter barrel than previous ones I've been told.

That's the 416 Weatherby with a 400gr XLC, what it's currently chambered in. Thinkin I might go to the 408 Chey-Tac necked to 416 and Improved this coming winter. Then maybe send it to Bowen for a 500 barreling job and leave it.

I'm not sure why I lucked out with 2 leafs on it, or why yours has just one.

I use my rifle for longer range, so the 3.5-10x40 worked out perfect, close range I don't really need one.