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Hi All; Great board,Question for ya? I just got one of the YUGO 8MM's and would like to use on hand brass if possiable,could 7x57 or 30-06 be formed for this and if so would I need forming dies or just 8x57 dies.Thanks up front.30-06va ------------------ | ||
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www.midwayusa.com They have lots of new 8x57 brass for sale. Don't fool with making cases, not worth the trouble. | |||
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As the others said 8mm brass is available so why bother. If you must use 06 brass for some reason you will need a form & trim die to push the shoulder back and trim to length. mc | ||
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Horsehockey. 8 x 57 is easily formed from .30-06 -- just lube properly and run through your 8 x 57 FL die. As with any FL die, don't turn it down past the point that is required to chamber in your rifle in order to have nice snug headspace. (Headspace is a function of the size of the brass relative to the chamber, not the other way around.) It is, of course, much easier if you have a power trimmer to get rid of the extra quarter-inch or so of "neck" left over from the 30-06. I usually trim after sizing. If you wish, you can pre-trim the '06 brass; but it will need a trimming to final length after sizing anyway, so I just do it once. Mouths will need chamfering. In thirty years, I don't recall shooting any 8 x 57 (except one box of factory loads) made from anything other than '06 brass. No sense in paying premium prices for factory brass that will likely be a somewhat sloppy fit on first firing in your chamber anyway when you have cheap '06 brass that will be equally or more satisfactory. Going up from 7 x 57 is also doable, but necking-up is not quite as consistent as necking-down (with '06 brass, you're "necking-down" because the neck area of the new round is formed primarily from the shoulder of the parent case, not from its smaller .308 neck). Does it take longer to do this and is it more complicated that using factory 8mm brass? Of course. But are your reloading for profit or for pleasure? If all you want to do is make your rifle go "bang", then just go buy a box of shells for it. | |||
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Thanks all for your replies. I should have added in first post that this is more want to do than anything else. I have lots of 06 brass and was priceing 8mm ( mid south shooters was cheapest) and thought I would like to make it if I could(I've never formed my own and wanted to give it a try)time is not a factor and it will give me that little Did It Myself feeling,now to get those 8MM dies on order. Thanks again 3006va ------------------ | |||
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With 8x57 brass running $26.40 per hundred plus a little postage, I can't hardly justify the trouble of makeing brass from 06 cases. Doesn't make since to me inasmuch as 06 brass is worth about the same or a little more. ------------------ | |||
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Well Mr.Atkinson; For me it is worth while for the following,1- Out of work due to on job accident= no money 2- Out of work also = lots of time(depending on strain of forming I might do a few then take a break then do a few more) 3- I have more 06 brass than I'll ever use and# 4- I have never done this and have wanted to try it for some time to get the experince. Oh ya #5 sence I've always wanted a custom rifle but could never afford one table topping this Yugo and forming the brass is the next best thing.Thanks all for the replies and Thanks again Stonecreek for the directions. 3006va ------------------ | |||
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This is supposed to be a fun sport/hobby. Try forming a few 8mm cases from 30-06 brass. If you enjoy it, do it!!!! If not, you can always buy some 8mm brass. | ||
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30-06va 5 good reasons. enjoy. ------------------ | |||
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3006va, they sound like good reasons to me, best of luck and good shooting. Eterry | |||
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Thanks again all,just waiting on dies to give it a try.3006va ------------------ | |||
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3006 if you need some 8X57 let me know, I have a bunch of it..........10 | ||
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I have formed several hundred 8mm cases out of surplus .30-06 brass found on the range. The key is lubrication and lots of trimming. I use a high speed die grinder to get them close. Then the use of my RCBS trimmer finishes them off. Good luck. | ||
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I trim before forming. Drill a hole through a piece of flat bar just large enough for the neck of the 30/06 case to fit though and protrude about 1/4". The amount the case sticks though can be adjusted using a countersink on the side where the shoulder contacts. Clamp bar in a vice and cut what sticks through using a electric jig saw with a metal cutting blade. Run your shortened cases through the 8x57 die and then clean up the case mouth with your case trimmer. You can do a lot of cases in a short time this way. Hope this helps. Hart. | |||
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I take 7x57 brass run them through an 8x57 resizing die put 10gr of bullseye in, fill the case with corn meal then a wax plug and fire form to blow the shoulder out.Works great and very few split shoulders. | ||
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Thanks guys,great replies.Dies not obtained yet( I think everybodies out?)going to try midsouth next. 3006va | |||
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Finaly got mt dies today and made up a few 8x57.Now I see why I always read IF THERE STANDARD JUST BUY EM - BUT I am really starting to enjoy this.As stated before time is not a factor and I have lots of 06 brass so I am going to make about 100 although it will take awhile!I'm lubeing with lee lube and then cutting excess with a tubing cutter then back through FL die and over to lyman trimmer for the last trimming,debur etc.The problem I'm working on now is marking to insure my son dosen't put em in a 30-06!!! Should I now fire form to chamber then neck size before load development? Thanks for all your responses (I LOVE THIS SITE) 3006va | |||
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