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17 January 2005, 04:55
jeffeosso
Australian Walnut ???
Okay Gents,
I am reading of Australian Walnut and I am confused...

Does one make stocks from english walnut (juglans) grown in oz, or, of the native tree (Endiandra), which is NOT in the true walnut family??

fwiw, the Endiandra is known for being hard, dense, and full of silica (use carbide tools only)... wonder if that's what's fiddleback truely is

jeffe


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17 January 2005, 05:17
Mike375
jeffe

I am about as far from a wood expert as you can get but I think it is Australian grown English Walnut for the rifles.

One of our top stock makers told me that Australian should be used for 375s, 416 and other conservatives calibre/rilfes and Californian was best for the Weatherby styles.

Mike
17 January 2005, 05:20
jeffeosso
Mike,
Thanks for the take on that... I keep hearing both ways..

of course juglans appeals to the purist in me.... but I am trying to learn

jeffe


opinions vary band of bubbas and STC hunting Club

Information on Ammoguide about
the416AR, 458AR, 470AR, 500AR
What is an AR round? Case Drawings 416-458-470AR and 500AR.
476AR,
http://www.weaponsmith.com
17 January 2005, 06:40
Gringo Cazador
Jeffe,

I did some searches for Australian walnut and got more confused.........but sometimes that doesnt take much. I did come to the concluesion that there is more money in walnuts that gunstocks.


Billy,

High in the shoulder

(we band of bubbas)
17 January 2005, 09:18
Customstox
Jeffe, it is Juglans Regia grown in Oz.


Chic Worthing
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18 January 2005, 00:45
tracks
I have had two custom gunstocks made here in Australia and my stockmaker uses only 1st grade New Zealand walnut, I really have never heard of any english walnut grown here in commercial quantities..but I check around...Les
18 January 2005, 02:07
jeffeosso
Billy, Chic, Les,
thanks..

Les, Oz has a thriving walnut agg biz... growing english nuts...

Chic,
owing to my texas background, I am having a hard time sayign "gug-laans" rather than the spanish of huglahns HEH

thanks guys, makes sense, i guess...

but WHY would oz juglans regia be harder than say idaho j.Regia?

jeffe


opinions vary band of bubbas and STC hunting Club

Information on Ammoguide about
the416AR, 458AR, 470AR, 500AR
What is an AR round? Case Drawings 416-458-470AR and 500AR.
476AR,
http://www.weaponsmith.com
18 January 2005, 02:51
Bill Soverns
The best wood grows under the worst conditions. Or so I've read. Trees that grow very slow tend to run extremely dense. Fast growing trees tend to have very porous wood. I would suspect that that australian walnut trees grow in extremely harsh conditions and therefore grow very slow. I couldnt comment on the idaho trees but if they are grown near a water source its a good bet they grew fast. You can usually tell by looking at the wood. Im no expert and thats about as much as I have learned and read on the subject.
18 January 2005, 03:51
Stefan
Here comes info about English walnut grown in Australia from a Swede Wink

During a huntingtrip in Vic. a few years ago I ended up at Roger Wardys doorstep in Myrtleford Vic. Roger Vardy is a stockmaker and supplyer of English valnut grown in Australia. The walnut was brought to Aus by the English on their ships to be planted at the farms to make them a bit lika England (I think).

Mr. Vardy had a quite impressing supply of exibition grade blanks Eeker I´ll doubth that any supplyer in Aus. do have that amount of high grade walnutblanks in stock. This was in 2001, I don´t know what´s been going on in the past 4 years at Mr. Vardys place.

Mr. Vardy had every grade of walnut and I wouldn´t hesitate to contact him to get some blanks if he didn´t lived half around the world to me........

He and his whife also offered us (three dirty hunters after a few days in the bush) breakfast Big Grin

We left with our bellyies filled with toast and thea and mouths drooling after looking at oustanding rifles and blanks for a few houers!Razzer

Stefan


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18 January 2005, 07:06
El Deguello
quote:
Originally posted by Bill Soverns:
The best wood grows under the worst conditions. Trees that grow very slow tend to run extremely dense. Fast growing trees tend to have very porous wood.


Exactly!!


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18 January 2005, 10:32
Mike A
The "other " Australian Walnut is an extremely hard dense and heavy wood that is amost impossible to work.
When you cut it it smells like vomit. I tried to build two stocks out of it and ended up burning them and they stank then too.
Australian grown English Walnut can be really good to average and is often quite dense due to our low rainfall.
19 January 2005, 01:21
Stu C
Here are a couple of Roger Vardy blanks - Australian grown Juglans Regia as Chic indicated


19 January 2005, 03:15
jeffeosso
nice blanks, thanks!!

smell's like vomit, huh? WOW

jeffe


opinions vary band of bubbas and STC hunting Club

Information on Ammoguide about
the416AR, 458AR, 470AR, 500AR
What is an AR round? Case Drawings 416-458-470AR and 500AR.
476AR,
http://www.weaponsmith.com