i had a gunsmith rebarrel my savage FP10 to a 300 WSM using a krieger barrel. i've had several krieger barrels, and none exhibit the softness of this one. this barrel is not consistant at all. MOA to 2 MOA initially, the gunsmith did not want to cut the "krieger proof" off the end to give to me. in addition, there were ejection and magazine feeding problems. i think the smith switched barrels and gave me a cheaper SS. krieger wants me to send the gun in for examination. mind you, i've only taken this gun out hunting 3-4 times and they were just day trips. the rest of the time it sits in my safe.
Posts: 211 | Location: MT | Registered: 24 January 2002
let's hope the barrel is a Krieger...if not then you have an ex-gunsmith that really needs an ass whuppin and a lawsuit filed. The last Krieger barrel I bought was $340 with shipping and ins...that's enough for a felony charge here in Idaho.
Send it to them. They will know if it is their barrel. If it isn't a Krieger, and you have a written invoice from your gunsmith stating that it is a Krieger, then you will have something to come back to your gunsmith with, legally. As far as group consistency goes, if the worlds best barrel is installed by an idiot, not saying your gunsmith is an idiot, not yet anyway, that could explain the inconsitencies you mentioned. FWIW, I have encountered some pretty soft stainless barrels from some really great barrel makers over the years... Anyway, good luck!
Most makers of stainless barrels are using the same steel.... Walther uses a "harder" stainless than most. The rest of them are all the same...
So I don't think the dings are any indication whatever that Krieger did or did not make the barrel.
The groups you're getting don't necessarily prove anything either....
Other than the obvious errors the smith MAY have made in cutting the chamber, threading or fitting the barrel, you could be a lousy shot, the ammo could be inconsistent or not suited to that specific barrel.
It would take much more than what you've listed to convince me that you've been "taken".
Send it to Krieger and see what they say... then tell us.
Originally posted by Steve Reeves: Most makers of stainless barrels are using the same steel.... Walther uses a "harder" stainless than most. The rest of them are all the same...
So I don't think the dings are any indication whatever that Krieger did or did not make the barrel.
The groups you're getting don't necessarily prove anything either....
Other than the obvious errors the smith MAY have made in cutting the chamber, threading or fitting the barrel, you could be a lousy shot, the ammo could be inconsistent or not suited to that specific barrel.
It would take much more than what you've listed to convince me that you've been "taken".
Send it to Krieger and see what they say... then tell us.
i just love the key board quarter backs that have nothing good to say about a post.
first off, i am no nub to reloading, i've been doing it for 30 yrs now. as far as being a lousy shot and inconsistant ammo, that would not be the case. here is an example of a load i worked up for my ar15 krieger barreled upper. 5 shots at 100yds. you make all kinds of assumptions that place your key board in your mouth.
Posts: 211 | Location: MT | Registered: 24 January 2002
just love the key board quarter backs that have nothing good to say about a post.
I thought you was given good advice. Send it to Krieger for identification! You have no rockwell spec from Krieger and no test data from your barrel so you have nothing at all and bad groups may be totally unrelated to the barrel.
Now, quit being a prick, get off your lazy ass, and send the barrel to Krieger for confirmation and take it from there and quit spamming the forums! Jeez!
Posts: 770 | Location: colorado | Registered: 11 August 2003
Originally posted by Steve Reeves: snip . . you could be a lousy shot, the ammo could be inconsistent or not suited to that specific barrel. . .
98% of the info is good. except the above. i have all intentions to send it to krieger. i would be a fool not to. i never did say i would not send it to krieger.
btw, duikerman, i am not the prick, as far as i'm concerned you and steve are the pricks.
Posts: 211 | Location: MT | Registered: 24 January 2002
The finish on a Krieger blank of mine looks nothing like yours, nor does the stamping arrangement. Yours looks like a Winchester matte finish on one I have Dan
Posts: 174 | Location: Lakewood | Registered: 02 May 2006
btw, i think the real pussies out there are the ones that are afraid to tell anyone in the real world what they think, but give them the security of their house an a keyboard and the words will fly, distructive and all.
personally, i don't attack anyone first. if you swing at me, expect it back. all my posts are very civil if you are civil to me. this is true in the real world. i treat everyone with respect. the second you try and attack me, is the time the kid gloves come off.
Posts: 211 | Location: MT | Registered: 24 January 2002
If that came off your barrel, it is a Kreiger. It is a 10 twist 308 with a .300 bore diameter. They rockwell between 26-28. If you have a borescope, you can look at the inside of the bore of your barrel and the plug that was cut off and compare them. Butch
initially, the gunsmith did not want to cut the "krieger proof" off the end to give to me. in addition, there were ejection and magazine feeding problems. i think the smith switched barrels and gave me a cheaper SS. krieger wants me to send the gun in for examination. mind you, i've only taken this gun out hunting 3-4 times and they were just day trips. the rest of the time it sits in my safe.
