10 August 2006, 22:42
Buck3Sloppy bolt on Mauser?
How much clearance is standard between the bolt and the action on the old Mausers? How much is too much?
I am working on my first Mauser build and I am using a K.Kale action. I have tried to go as cheap as I could on my first one so that the screw-ups will not be too painful. The bolt that I am using has quite a bit of slop to it.
Buck,
10 August 2006, 22:54
jeffeossoBy design.. when the bolt is all the way back, it should more or less FLOP around... but when in battery, should be tight as a drum....
close tolerance is great for modern bolt guns, but the mauser is a battle rifle, meant for crappy environments.
jeffe
11 August 2006, 17:13
Buck3What makes it tight when closed? I am lapping the locking lugs now. Should I have the Bolt sleeve and firing pin installed on the bolt? I had taking those off to make it easier to turn the Bolt.
Buck,
11 August 2006, 17:34
ramrod340Buck maybe this site can help.
http://www.mausercentral.com/action.htmI use only the bolt and apply pressure from the front.
KEY ISSUE is a little goes a long way on a Mauser. You don't want to cut through the surface hardening.
11 August 2006, 18:17
jeffeossonevermind.. thank z1r for the data
That will only square the torque shoulder to the threads, NOT to the bolt bore.
12 August 2006, 04:04
Customstoxz1r, you are right. What Jeffe linked does nothing for the bolt flopping around. One of the tools is for lapping lugs and bolt face and the other is for the front of the C ring on the barrel side. Try again Jeffe.
Buck, when the bolt is open it will flop around and is meant to be that way. You will not fix that and it is not necessary.
12 August 2006, 04:11
Bill SovernsThe bolts on every mauser action I've used flibberty flopped around. Nothing to worry about.......and yes, that is a technical term.
12 August 2006, 04:18
malmquote:
Originally posted by Bill Soverns:
The bolts on every mauser action I've used flibberty flopped around. Nothing to worry about.......and yes, that is a technical term.
Yes it is a technical term but I don't think you are allowed to use such language as "flibberty" on this forum. At least not until the kids have gone to bed.
12 August 2006, 06:15
ramrod340quote:
One of the tools is for lapping lugs and bolt face and the other is for the front of the C ring on the barrel side.
I read his second question as wanting to know about lapping the lugs. No longer worried the "flibberty flop" except if he needed to install the sleeve before he did the lapping. Squaring would be the next step.
12 August 2006, 08:11
jeffeossoquote:
Originally posted by z1r:
That will only square the torque shoulder to the threads, NOT to the bolt bore.
You are right, I'll stick to my original post on the matter,and if Chic and Bill agree with that position, it has to be right from just about any read. thanks for the support guys.
quote:
Originally posted by jeffeosso:
By design.. when the bolt is all the way back, it should more or less FLOP around... but when in battery, should be tight as a drum....
close tolerance is great for modern bolt guns, but the mauser is a battle rifle, meant for crappy environments.
jeffe
quote:
Originally posted by Customstox:
...when the bolt is open it will flop around and is meant to be that way. You will not fix that and it is not necessary.
quote:
Originally posted by Bill Soverns:
The bolts on every mauser action I've used flibberty flopped around. Nothing to worry about.......and yes, that is a technical term.
12 August 2006, 08:32
CustomstoxTeflon Jeffe, you sly one. You delete your reference to the item that does nothing for the problem and look like you know what you were talking about all along. One out of three ain't bad eh? Gotta keep the edit skills in fine tune.
15 August 2006, 17:13
Buck3Thanks for all of the replys.
Buck,
