I will post details this evening.

Michael

Why did you mount the bases backwards? Where did you get the rings?

Mickey,

I did a double take on this one too, but the front and rear bases have a different hole spacing and it is impossible to put them on any other way. And this ring and base set came on this rifle. I know the original owner (83 years old). He purchased this rifle in post war Europe when he was with the occupation forces. He has had it 40 some years as a complete package. I was the first one to dismantle it since the day it was built. It was brought in to me for restoration.

The bases and rings are stamped FN. One thing that does happen, because the scope tips forward to lock instead of back, you can have a sizeable objective with no problems whatsoever. I am considering the possibility of making these bases and rings for sale. I have the equipment and skill available, I just don't know if there is a market.

I need two sets of 1" rings on claws. I also have a 'siezed firearm' from the war. A Marholt stamped super 30.

Mickey,

I would love to build these rings and bases. However... I need to be able to round up enough interested people to pre-sell or have a reasonable expectation of selling 30 to 50 sets before I start writing the CNC program. I am afraid a smaller quantity be be cost prohibitive-unless people are willing to more than I am aware of.

I am in the process of doing drawings right now and getting a cost estimate on a run of 30 and 50 pair.

I would love to have some for myself...maybe you might know other people who could be interested.

Michael S.

Michael S.

The bases are in fact designed to use scopes with a large objective bell. Without this design you would have to have the scope high above the bore to utelize a claw mount."Like a see-through mount" Mounts of this orientation have to be fight very tight to handle recoil. The front base is oriented correctly while the rear is actually installed backwards.
I am not shure what you could produce the mounts and rings for but I dont see it as a money maker. I would be interested in a approximate price.

Two web-sights you might want to check out.

www.clawmounts.com
www.eaw.de

James

Mickey1,
They are not backwards, many claw were built in both directions, many with two notches and many with one big notch..either way they work the same and properly done are the most precise return to zero I have ever seen...most even have a adjustment for wear.

BTW, you can have them made today by several smiths, anyway you want them...David yale and Lee La Bass come to mind.. about $350. to $500 depending on what you want.

Ray,

Thanks for the backup, I am not very well known on this forum and was aware I probably couldn't win this debate.

I have not heard of these two gunsmiths who build these ring/base combos, do you have contact info?

Thanks again, Michael S.

Michael S.... that old man needs a beneficiary, and I dont charge for that service.

Nice rifle

Those are beautiful rings & bases.

Claw rings are mounted on the scope so that the feet point outward, towards the lenses. You need to orient your bases to reflect that. It looks like the ones in photo may be pointing inward.

While most claw mounts pivot on the front and lock on the rear, I have not heard any reports of trouble by having the mounts do the opposite.

[ 07-19-2003, 19:04: Message edited by: KurtC ]

Gentlemen,

This thread has been a lot of fun and so....I am going to add my $.02 as to the reasons why!

1) The rear hook is facing the rear lens to allow the scope to pivot forward to lock with a bigger objective

2) If the front hook faced forward you are faced with almost no recoil shoulder and the locking mechanism is fighting recoil on spring tension alone

3) Turn the ring around and you have a large recoil shoulder and the locking mechanism is driven further into battery with each shot. It is two non-parallel surfaces with a wear adjusting feature, think shotgun bolt/ locking lug

Michael S.