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Marking Restoration Work! I’ve made a plan and started today using a new mark “MP” in an oval. Both these rifles were Stock-up major restorations. For rifles without a trapdoor butt I plan to mark them under the barrel just in front of the forend like a barrel weight number on a high-wall unless someone has a better idea.     | ||
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Michael, It looks like an honest and honorable idea to me. Anyone who claims the 30-06 is ineffective has either not tried one, or is unwittingly commenting on their own marksmanship Phil Shoemaker Alaska Master guide FAA Master pilot NRA Benefactor www.grizzlyskinsofalaska.com | |||
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I have done some restoration in the past but haven't marked any of my work. Just for giggles and grins, at what point should any restoration work be marked? If you're just cleaning the gun and freshening up the finish and bluing should you mark the gun? You haven't really changed the original configuration or the original makers intent, so, should you mark it? Should you mark it if you do anything that changes the value of the gun? Blair "Peace is that brief glorious moment in history when everybody stands around reloading". | |||
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When Doug Turnbull does a restoration, does he mark his work? I don't know? Rusty We Band of Brothers! DRSS, NRA & SCI Life Member "I am rejoiced at my fate. Do not be uneasy about me, for I am with my friends." ----- David Crockett in his last letter (to his children), January 9th, 1836 "I will never forsake Texas and her cause. I am her son." ----- Jose Antonio Navarro, from Mexican Prison in 1841 "for I have sworn upon the altar of god eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man." Thomas Jefferson Declaration of Arbroath April 6, 1320-“. . .It is not for glory, nor riches, nor honours that we are fighting, but for freedom - for that alone, which no honest man gives up but with life itself.” | |||
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Rusty, I believe that Doug does mark his restorations, But I don't remember how, where, or under what circumstances. Hopefully, Doug will chime in here. Dave One morning I shot an elephant in my pajamas. How he got into my pajamas I'll never know. - Groucho Marx | |||
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Silly me...how about including the date Mike Legistine actu quod scripsi? Never under estimate the internet community's ability to reply to your post with their personal rant about their tangentially related, single occurrence issue.  What I have learned on AR, since 2001: 1. The proper answer to: Where is the best place in town to get a steak dinner? is…You should go to Mel's Diner and get the fried chicken. 2. Big game animals can tell the difference between .015 of an inch in diameter, 15 grains of bullet weight, and 150 fps. 3. There is a difference in the performance of two identical projectiles launched at the same velocity if they came from different cartridges. 4. While a double rifle is the perfect DGR, every 375HH bolt gun needs to be modified to carry at least 5 down. 5. While a floor plate and detachable box magazine both use a mechanical latch, only the floor plate latch is reliable. Disregard the fact that every modern military rifle uses a detachable box magazine. 6. The Remington 700 is unreliable regardless of the fact it is the basis of the USMC M40 sniper rifle for 40+ years with no changes to the receiver or extractor and is the choice of more military and law enforcement sniper units than any other rifle. 7. PF actions are not suitable for a DGR and it is irrelevant that the M1, M14, M16, & AK47 which were designed for hunting men that can shoot back are all PF actions. 8. 95 deg F in Africa is different than 95 deg F in TX or CA and that is why you must worry about ammunition temperature in Africa (even though most safaris take place in winter) but not in TX or in CA. 9. The size of a ding in a gun's finish doesn't matter, what matters is whether it’s a safe ding or not. 10. 1 in a row is a trend, 2 in a row is statistically significant, and 3 in a row is an irrefutable fact. 11. Never buy a WSM or RCM cartridge for a safari rifle or your go to rifle in the USA because if they lose your ammo you can't find replacement ammo but don't worry 280 Rem, 338-06, 35 Whelen, and all Weatherby cartridges abound in Africa and back country stores. 12. A well hit animal can run 75 yds. in the open and suddenly drop with no initial blood trail, but the one I shot from 200 yds. away that ran 10 yds. and disappeared into a thicket and was not found was lost because the bullet penciled thru. I am 100% certain of this even though I have no physical evidence. 13. A 300 Win Mag is a 500 yard elk cartridge but a 308 Win is not a 300 yard elk cartridge even though the same bullet is travelling at the same velocity at those respective distances. | |||
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This will give you folks a better Idea of what was done to the Wundhammer. Both the Wundhammer and the Adolph were just stocks when I got them. I can tell the next owner what was done and that would be as far as I would have a say in things. With the prices these rifles are bringing these days a buyer needs to know the difference. http://forums.accuratereloadin...1043/m/971104608/p/1 | |||
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My 50 ak levergun conversion is marked "Turnbull Restoration" on the barrel with 50 Alaskan marked as the chambering. All other markings are blank. This was a rebarrel so it was not previously marked. I am not positive how they mark the restorations. | |||
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OK then, if all Michael had was the stock then he probably should mark the rifles somehow showing that it has had some major restoration done to it. Turnbull's work leaves no doubt that there has been a major overhaul although sometime in the distant future it too will fade and start to show its age. I suppose it's 50-100 years from now that all will have been forgotten and nothing will remain except the restorers mark to tell what work has been done. I used to work on rifles from the late 1700's and early 1800's and have done some minor as well as major restoration on these guns. While I made no attempt to disguise or make a rifle anything it wasn't, I didn't mark the work either. I think the two rifles that Michael has shown are worthy of the restoration work that has been done and he should be commended for stamping them as a clue to future generations. "Peace is that brief glorious moment in history when everybody stands around reloading". | |||
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I believe the rifles that you have restored should be marked with your stamp. I see no reason to hide the stamp either. The way I see it is anyone seeking out rifles of this period knows who you are and how painstakingly you go about keeping them period correct. One thing I probably would do is keep a file on that rifle of the resteration work, one to sell with the rifle and one to keep in your files. Who knows fifty years from now that little MP stamp may even bring the value of the rifle up more. _____________________ Steve Traxson | |||
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I'm,of course a majority of one,but would personally pay a premium for an MP stamped restoration. I would be assured that every detail was paid the proper attention and was accurate. SCI Life Member NRA Patron Life Member DRSS | |||
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Thanks for all the positive feedback. When I first saw the Wundhammer stock I thought it would be a fun project and I could use the finished rifle as trade material. Now more than a year later I am attached to this rifle and would sell another before this one. With all the help I received from friends plus my sweat equity this rifle would mean more to me than others. Some day I will write an article on restoring classic custom rifles and will include the marking information. The most common restoration of these rifles are from scope mounting. The receiver was drilled and tapped the bolt handle was bent the stock was cutout and sometimes the receiver was notched out as well. Just last week I got word of a nice Shelhamer-Niedner that was brought into a shop for this work so the practice still goes on. I remember some years back when I was hot on the trail of Hoffman chambered in .300 Hoffman, each owner could not find ammo so sold it, I located it a day after in was rechambered. When I get some time I'll post a picture or two of a couple of scope mounting reversals. | |||
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Let me make it clear that I did not do the work on this rifle, it’s beyond my ability. This rifle had a scope mounted on it, the bolt was bent, then the stock cut out for it and the receiver was cut out as well.  | |||
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how about inside the floorplate?  Doug Humbarger NRA Life member Tonkin Gulf Yacht Club 72'73. Yankee Station Try to look unimportant. Your enemy might be low on ammo. | |||
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