All the ones I've seen lately have the date removed and of the few that still have the dates they were made in the 1930's. I've had one earmarked with a 1938 date on it....but here's my question.....what is the range of dates for these actions.....did they start in 1924?????

According to "The Book of Rifles" (Stackpole 1960) , manufacturing of the VZ24 was started in 1924.

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Originally posted by vapodog:
All the ones I've seen lately have the date removed and of the few that still have the dates they were made in the 1930's. I've had one earmarked with a 1938 date on it....but here's my question.....what is the range of dates for these actions.....did they start in 1924?????

vapodog,

The one I just got from your friend has a four digit serial number...whatever that means...and I swear it looks like it was made 20 years ago not 80 something years ago. I just got the side swing safety from Ed LaPour yesterday and have been cleaning everything up and getting ready to start fitting it this weekend.

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I just got the side swing safety from Ed LaPour yesterday and have been cleaning everything up and getting ready to start fitting it this weekend.

Rick,
post some pics when it's installed.....and let us know how it fits.....what trouble (if any) you had fitting it.

The three pos safety on a '98 Mauser changes it so totally that it's unbelievable.

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Originally posted by vapodog:
Rick,
post some pics when it's installed.....and let us know how it fits.....what trouble (if any) you had fitting it.

The three pos safety on a '98 Mauser changes it so totally that it's unbelievable.

I installed the Dakota three position side swing for the '98 on my self-built .35 Whelen. It does make one hell of a difference!!! I love that rifle! It has a short barrel, 21 inches from the receiver ring, which cuts my velocity a bit, but MAN that rifle ballances on the floorplate of the magazine and it lightning fast when sighting!

Rick , How much $ is Ed Lapour safety for m98?

Is the Shroud body shaped different than The Dakota or wiesner?

Id like to know how your install works out also

Rick

http://www.edlapourgunsmithing.com/

The biggest problem the manufacturers of these things have (and I totally understand and sympathise with them) is the huge difference in sizes of all military rifles.

I’m having to lap out the inside of my VZ24 bolt a bit so the new shroud will fit nicely...but it screws right into a couple other 98 bolts I have. Ed offers this lapping service for you if the shroud is too large to fit your bolt.

This is not, nor does Ed purport it to be, a “drop-in†conversion. You need some basic (very basic) machining skills and tools and due to the large variances in Mauser bolts the fitting required can vary also.

The quality/machining of the shroud and the lever is exceptional, IMO. I also have one of his 1903 Springfield side swing safety/shroud/cocking pieces on order, and he said he will be setting up to start those in June. I ordered the 98 safety from him last week and it arrived two days ago...Not bad at all!

I’m new to Mausers (this VZ24 is only my 3rd one) so I haven’t really looked at the other brands...but after seeing the quality of his work and the personal service I received from him I wouldn’t hesitate recommending him to others.

Rick I had his site link , didnt see any priceing.

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Originally posted by GSP7:
Rick I had his site link , didnt see any priceing.

I normally don’t like to quote other peoples prices for them, but what the hell...Ed’s 98 safeties are a bit over $200.00, and the 03’s with the cocking piece are around $300.00.

Thanks Rick , You could have PMed me, I thought they were alittle more than the others. I might send him My m96 bolt to modify.

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Originally posted by GSP7:
Thanks Rick , You could have PMed me, I thought they were alittle more than the others. I might send him My m96 bolt to modify.

I don’t know if he completely installs his units for you, he only offered to lap the threads for me if the bolt needed it, which it does.

Once the shroud will screw into the bolt the rest of the job is pretty easy if you have even basic mechanical/machining skills and good understanding of the functioning of a Mauser safety. The instructions that come with it are very easy to understand and you certainly don’t need to be a master machinist or have access to a CNC milling machine to do the work.

So Rick, ON the M 98 safety with your vz24 the threads needed to be cut deeper in the bolt , not sure what needs lapping? I think jeff said he used some valve grinding compond on the threads of someones M70 type safety.

I have a JC higgins FN and 3 Husqvarna FNs , No Militarys 98s yet. Wonder how the FNs will fit?

My M96 , LaPour has the safety with cock on opening kit and speed lock . Ill have to call him on that.

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Originally posted by GSP7:
So Rick, ON the M 98 safety with your vz24 the threads needed to be cut deeper in the bolt , not sure what needs lapping? I think jeff said he used some valve grinding compond on the threads of someones M70 type safety.

I have a JC higgins FN and 3 Husqvarna FNs , No Militarys 98s yet. Wonder how the FNs will fit?

Yes, the threads on the shroud have a slightly larger major diameter than the threads in my particular VZ24 bolt. I bought a bunch of old “beater†Mauser 98 bolts to practice welding, forging, etc, on and I tried the shroud on them, and it fit a couple of them fine. It’s the huge differences in the bolts, not Ed’s design.

My bolt threads are quite a bit smaller so I feel more comfortable sending the bolt and shroud to Ed and letting him decide if lapping will work or if the threads on the shroud need to be reduced in diameter. If it was just a “tight†fit I would go ahead and lap them in myself as he suggests in the instructions, but I can’t even get them started and I have so far resisted the temptation to try and force them.

You want a nice, slightly firm fit... not to tight, not too loose.