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Martini Cadet by Duane Wiebe - Work in Progress
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Thanks, James...If I enjoyed handloading, or if Sid's father did handloading, it would be a good choice,(I like the heavier bullet) Have you ever used Bob Snapp's rimless extractor?
 
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Thanks, James...If I enjoyed handloading, or if Sid's father did handloading, it would be a good choice,(I like the heavier bullet) Have you ever used Bob Snapp's rimless extractor?

Duane
I haven't used Bob's extractor. I bought a Martini from a member on AR and have been trying to come up with a good cartridge for my boys. The action I have looks smaller than the one you are working with. A 357 Mag case fits just perfect in the extractor. I'm looking to build it into a mild varmint rifle and I'm guessing I'll have to weld up the extractor for a Bee or Hornet or get one of Bob's and build a 222 or something "real". I've already drawn up some hardware to move the trigger back and incorporate a low wall style lever with a tang safety. I'd like to scope it, but by moving the trigger back it looks like I'd need a mile of eye relief or a Unertl style scope. Maybe I'll have a Martini to share at the 2010 ACGG show. Shaken or stirred?

They have loaded ammo for the 22HP
http://www.midwayusa.com/brows...yString=653***690***


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Redoak8,
I believe that is super glue.
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Have Ed Delorge engrave it. Here is an example of Eds work.






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Redoak8,
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Butch,

I thought that compound sounded kind of familiar. Can anyone refer me to a link or post that describes how it is applied?

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Gunmaker beat me to it. 22 Savage Hi-power/5.6x52R.

Norma loads soft point and FMJ bullets, available from Black Hills Shooters Supply. S&B sells loaded soft points (try Natchez Shooters Supply). The Hornady bullets are prettty straight.

When health permits I may fire up the corbin and make some bonded .227" bullet for the Savage Hi-power. Might make for a nice little deer shooter.

If you go that way I'll send you a box of RWS brass to try along with the Norma.

Heck, if you make one, I'll send 40 rounds to shoot out of it. Happy to recycle them too. The bullts weigh 70 or 71 grains depending on manufacturer.


 
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You know you can form brass out of Win 25-35 brass right?
 
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By the way, the wood is pretty darn soft, so am trying the cyanoacrylate treament that Paul Dressel speaks of so highly


FWIW, Minwax makes a wood hardener that is quite good and made specifically for this purpose. I don't know what the chemical is, but it is not cyanocrylate as I know it.

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Thanks, James...If I enjoyed handloading, or if Sid's father did handloading, it would be a good choice,(I like the heavier bullet) Have you ever used Bob Snapp's rimless extractor?

Duane
I haven't used Bob's extractor. I bought a Martini from a member on AR and have been trying to come up with a good cartridge for my boys. The action I have looks smaller than the one you are working with. A 357 Mag case fits just perfect in the extractor. I'm looking to build it into a mild varmint rifle and I'm guessing I'll have to weld up the extractor for a Bee or Hornet or get one of Bob's and build a 222 or something "real". I've already drawn up some hardware to move the trigger back and incorporate a low wall style lever with a tang safety. I'd like to scope it, but by moving the trigger back it looks like I'd need a mile of eye relief or a Unertl style scope. Maybe I'll have a Martini to share at the 2010 ACGG show. Shaken or stirred?

They have loaded ammo for the 22HP


I agree the trigger is WAY too far forward...but on the plus side, this is what makes the Martini into about the shortest SS out there. But...will be anxious to see your effort
http://www.midwayusa.com/brows...yString=653***690***
 
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I really like the gold fox on the right face of the receiver. Even though it looks like he's been eating my neighbors chicken's!!
 
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I love Martinis!

Thanks for this informative thread, Gentlemen.

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I just bought a Cadet chambered in .32 Winchester Special using the original .310 Cadet barrel....I believe it was a common rechamber done in the '60's by one of the (then) importers. Bought a box of bullets and shot it yesterday, it was suprisingly accurate, especially with my eyes and shooting on an overcast day. (That front sight is mighty thin and far away.) The extraction was crisp and clean and the recoil not bad at all. This is a simple rechamber only conversion.

I bought the rifle to rebarrel to a 5.6X50R which is commercially available from S&B who advertises their 50gr load at 3,445fps (My kind of speed).

In 1961 I built a Cadet in .218 Bee in High School Auto Shop after school. (Auto shop teacher was gunsmith). With the old .310 barrel, we built a single shot cap and ball pistol.


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Great stuff Duane!
How about a 22 Savage High Power?
Norma makes brass.

Hornady makes bulles


I chose 5.6X50R over the .22 Savage High Power because it is a higher velocity cartridge and the dia of the case at the rim is smaller .377 vs .423 which doesn't sound like much until you figure the .750 barrel threads of the Martini Cadet. This leaves only .1109" chamber wall tickness after subtracting the thread depth. A little thin (for the length of the threads) I've been told, but, yes it has been done. The .225 Winchester has the same .423 at the base of the case next to the rim but the rim is very thin and extraction/ejection probles often occure as well as the problem of thin chamber walls. And, the 5.6X50R out preforms the .22 Savage High Power by considerable.


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Duane, that stock has the best lines I've ever seen on a Martini. Well done!
 
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