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Hi Folks,
I just came across this on the Savage website. It should be an interesting innovation.

Good Shooting,
HBB

�THE DEFINITION OF ACCURACY�
SAVAGE ARMS SALES & MARKETING
118 Mountain Road
Suffield, CT 06078
Telephone: 800-235-1821
Fax: 860-668-2168
Web Site: www.savagearms.com
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
AccuTrigger� Pull Adjustment
The AccuTrigger� pull is completely adjustable from a minimum of 1 1/2 lbs. to a maximum of 6 lbs.
and can be adjusted by the owner to suit his or her individual preference. To adjust the trigger pull, simply
remove the stock and turn the trigger return spring (A) with the special tool (B) as shown in figures 1 and
2. Insert the tool into the bottom of the trigger return spring as shown, to engage the spring-tail with the
slot on the tool. To adjust towards the higher range of pull, turn the tool clockwise. The maximum trigger
pull is at the point where the spring �clicks� when rotated (see figure 1). To adjust for a lower pull, turn the
tool counter-clockwise. The minimum pull is at the point when the large coil contacts the top surface of the
trigger and you detect resistance (see figure 2). The spring should not be forced beyond these limits.
FIGURE 1 FIGURE 2
MAXIMUM TRIGGER PULL MINIMUM TRIGGER PULL
A
B
A
B
�THE DEFINITION OF ACCURACY�
SAVAGE ARMS SALES & MARKETING
118 Mountain Road
Suffield, CT 06078
Telephone: 800-235-1821
Fax: 860-668-2168
Web Site: www.savagearms.com
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
AccuRelease�
The AccuTrigger� cannot accidentally discharge from being jarred or dropped even when the trigger pull
is set at its lowest setting of 1 1/2 lbs. The AccuTrigger� is designed with an integrated AccuRelease�
(see figure 3). The AccuRelease� must be completely depressed or the rifle cannot fire because the travel
of the sear (see figure 4) is blocked (see figure 5).
FIGURE 3
FIGURE 4 FIGURE 5
TRIGGER
SEAR
AccuRelease�
SEAR
AccuRelease�
SEAR
AccuRelease�
�THE DEFINITION OF ACCURACY�
SAVAGE ARMS SALES & MARKETING
118 Mountain Road
Suffield, CT 06078
Telephone: 800-235-1821
Fax: 860-668-2168
Web Site: www.savagearms.com
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
Savage Arms AccuTrigger�
Introducing the new Savage AccuTrigger�.... A revolutionary design that will forever change the way
shooters expect triggers to function.
Savage is constantly searching for new products or innovations that provide a true benefit to shooters. The
trigger is one significant area that captured Savage�s attention. Most triggers found in firearms produced
today have a very heavy pull. The reason is quite simple...liability. Manufacturers cannot afford to ship
firearms with triggers that could accidentally discharge; therefore, they design their firearms with heavy
trigger pulls.
Almost all triggers can be adjusted to some degree. Some triggers have a screw that can be adjusted in
order to reduce spring pressure on the sear mechanism, while others require a gunsmith to polish the mating
components to reduce sear engagement. Adjustments to a factory trigger can create an unsafe condition
and will usually void the factory warranty.
Savage is a unique company. Its managers, including the owner, are shooters and hunters. They listen to
other shooters to understand what they want (and don�t want) in a firearm. Most shooters are frustrated
with a legal system that mandates the design of heavy triggers. They don�t feel they should be required to
buy a firearm and then pay a gunsmith to have the trigger adjusted.
Savage challenged its engineering team to design a completely new trigger system that would give shooters
what they desired. The parameters of this new trigger system, as outlined below, were formidable:
* Infinitely adjustable
* Trigger pull between 1 1/2 lbs. and 6 lbs.
* Capable of being adjusted by the owner
* Completely safe � no danger of accidental discharge even at the lowest setting
* Crisp release with no creep
It took several years, but Savage�s new AccuTrigger� meets every objective.
continued
The AccuTrigger� can be adjusted from a minimum of 1 1/2 lbs. to a maximum of 6 lbs. The shooter is
able to set the trigger pull to suit his or her individual preference. There should be no need to take the rifle
to a gunsmith to have the trigger adjusted.
To adjust the trigger, you simply remove the stock and rotate the trigger return spring with the tool that is
supplied with the rifle. The AccuTrigger� has a single adjustment location and is designed so it cannot
be adjusted below 1 1/2 lbs.
The AccuTrigger� is completely safe and cannot accidentally discharge from being jarred or dropped
when adjusted as intended. The trigger is designed with an integrated AccuRelease� that must be completely
depressed or the rifle cannot fire. When the AccuRelease� is intentionally depressed while pulling
the trigger, the rifle will discharge because the sear is no longer blocked. You�ll find the AccuTrigger�
is extremely crisp and exhibits negligible creep.
Savage used sophisticated software to compare objective measurements of their new AccuTrigger� with
competitors� triggers. These comparisons confirmed there is a graphic and repeatable difference between
the AccuTrigger� and all other triggers tested. This objective method of testing demonstrated the new
Savage system has a lighter trigger pull than all the other major brands. In fact, the AccuTrigger� was
lighter than a top-of-the-line imported brand and a custom aftermarket trigger. Testing also revealed the
AccuTrigger� was much smoother, crisper, broke cleaner and demonstrated less creep than any other
factory-built trigger tested.
An additional advantage shooters will find on rifles with the new system is a newly designed teardrop safety
that provides better acquisition of the safety button. This new safety also operates smoother and quieter.
The new AccuTrigger� will be available on all Varmint, LE and heavy barrel long range rifles beginning
in January, 2003.
See and use the future of the industry � the Savage trigger system that makes all others obsolete.
# # #
Contact: Brian Herrick, Vice President of Marketing & Sales
Savage Arms, Inc.
Carl Hildebrandt, Technical Data
Savage Arms, Inc.
413-568-7001
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Posts: 376 | Location: North Carolina | Registered: 27 February 2001Reply With Quote
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FINALLY!!!!!!

This has been state of the art in handguns for OVER a HUNDRED years!!

The part about heavy triggers caused by lawyers is bullshit. When was the last bad trigger you felt on an S&W, Colt, Ruger, or Don Wesson revolver?? They,re safer than a creepy, 8 1/2 lb Remington 700.

I've ask for prints. From the picture I can see how it works....it's an old design with a twist. I just hope it's made well enough to work well.

Congratulations to Savage. This is a LONG time coming.
 
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SURE! Now that I worked my OLD Savage trigger and got it working decent NOW they come out with another that is adjustable.. [Big Grin] Oh well! Thats probably what they were waiting for.. Sorry I took so long guys. [Big Grin]
 
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Can they be installed on Savages built in the last 10 years or so?
 
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Ironic that Savage the "economy model" (and best quality, albeit simple design, IMO) of the gun industry responds to consumer wishes and makes a better trigger. Why can't can't the rest of them listen to consumers and make better products?
 
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It was said on HA this morning by one who's seen one of these and has talked to the folks selling it that this new AccuTrigger is NOT retro-fittable to existing guns.

Good question Todd. I've been working towards that end for a decade.
 
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Guys,

I wanted to respond earlier this morning on the new Savage trigger but had troubles logging on. I guess Saeed got the problem fixed as I tried it again and made it this time.

I was in Montana back in the summer on a prairie dog shoot and Savage brought along some of its rifles with the new trigger for us to try. It works wonderfully. That's the good news. The bad news is that it can't be fitted to guns that weren't made for it, according to Savage.

In answer to one of the posts, one of the reasons that Savage listens is that on the Montana shoot, the company President/COO and Vice President for Sales and Marketing were right there in the field with us. They were shooting, but they were also listening.

Tom
 
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I just picked up a Savage 10FP a few months ago. Since this new trigger isn't retrofittable, what is the nest aftermarket replacement?

-M
 
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Z,

There are three current options: Sharp Shooters Supply, Rifle Basix and Timney. Jewell is said to be coming out with a benchrest version in the next couple of months.

SSS and Rifle basix are the best ones, but make sure you get the model that is correct for your needs. Rifle Basix has a hunting and a 12 oz model. They are about $85. Savage uses the SSS on their current high end models. Do a google for contact info. HTH, Dutch.
 
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Thanks Dutch.

I think I'll look for one that's adjustable from maybe 1-4 pounds or so. I have one rifle with a very light trigger pull and I don't care for it.
 
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Originally posted by JBelk:
It was said on HA this morning by one who's seen one of these and has talked to the folks selling it that this new AccuTrigger is NOT retro-fittable to existing guns.



Mr. Belk:

You'll just have to take my word for it, I've ripped apart a few Savage triggers over the past decade, so I'm intimately familiar with them... and tuning them.

This said, I was telling my buddy the other night about this thread, and I commented that I figured they WOULD be retrofittable, because I just couldn't fathom that Savage would go to the expense of retooling for new receivers that would not take anything but the new triggers. Doing so, though, would certainly make it a "sure thing" that people looking for an affordable and VERY ACCURATE rifle from the Savage line would be inclined to get one of the newer guns instead of one of the older ones.

Do you have any idea what they would have done to ALL their new receivers to make them so they'll only accept the new triggers? I just can't believe they'd spend money on changing their receivers. Incredible.

Your thoughts, sir?

Thanks.

Russ

(P. S. Hope your eye situation is still doing well after the surgery.)
 
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Dear Mr. Taylor,

As surprising as it may seem, Savage says that the new trigger is not retrofittable due to differences in the action. Precisely what those differences are, I can't say. I can say that the source of that information was the President/COO of Savage, Mr. Al Kasper and his Vice President for Sales and Marketing, Brian Herrick.

I can't imagine what reason they would have to say such a thing if it wasn't correct. Perhaps Jack will have some idea of the technical requirements that might necessitate a change in the action to accommodate the trigger.

Cheers,

Tom
 
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No problem, Tom, I wasn't thinking you were lying. I was just hoping whomever told you that information was gravely mistaken.

When did Ron Coburn step down as head cheese at Savage?

Russ
 
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Russell and Tom---

I've had up the Ten Foot Pole so long in regards to Savage that I don't even know how they attach the trigger.

Just from the one small picture I've seen it looks like they've switched from a rigid housing mount to a movable trigger unit more like the M-70. That would mean the attachment/pivot points are moved and possibly even the sear opening. Without doing an A-B comparison there's really no way of knowing what's involved.

The question isn't really *can* it be done.....or course it can. Whether someone wants to pay the bill for it is another question. [Smile]
 
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Dear Russ,

Didn't mean to imply that you thought I'd had one or two too many. I only wanted to inform you and everyone else that the information came from the top guys at Savage. Ron didn't go anywhere by the way. He is the Chairman and CEO of Savage (and owner as well, I think).

When I was a lad (a long time ago), Savage guns had a very good reputation in Kentucky where I grew up. For the past 25 years or so, their reputation has not been exactly spiffy. I think Ron and his team are making an extraordinary effort to improve the products and thereby improve the image of the company. A much improved trigger has been at the top of just about every Savage owner's wish list. Savage has spent a ton of money in trying to satisfy that wish. I believe they will continue to work on the product. Sending their top executives to the field to witness and talk to folks is surely a step in the right direction. One doesn't learn much about shooting and rifles on the golf course!

Tom
 
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I'm also a little skeptical, since Savage will continue to put the regular trigger on their hunting rifles. Are they now going to produce two actions? Varmint and hunting?

Somehow, I doubt that. Perhaps they are changing the hunting trigger to fit the "new" action?

I suppose we'll find out soon enough. FWIW, Dutch.
 
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I just got this from Brian Herrick, whom I'd written when I first read this thread, days ago.

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Russ,

I'm sorry but rifles made without the AccuTrigger cannot be retrofitted with
the new trigger. The receivers with the AccuTrigger have additional
machining cuts and the safety system is completely different.

Regards,

Brian Herrick

So, I was right. They tooled up to make changes in their receivers. I'm just surprised they took on that cost. Amazed, really. Oh well.

So, there it is, folks.

Russ
 
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Tom, I'm glad Ron is still there. I met him in 1997. He liked the trigger job on my .22-250 AI (112 BVSS). He was amazed it was so light but that he couldn't get the trigger to fire, with the safety on, even though he damn near beat the shit out of my rifle trying to make that happen. Getting THAT kind of compliment from THAT man... well, I was pleased as all get out.

Bummer on the new triggers, though.

I love Savages, always have, always will. I just don't need anymore right at the moment -- I've pretty much got every shooting niche filled these days, if you know what I mean.

And yes, I think it's great how Savage has turned things around in their favor. I feel that's directly due to their leadership in recent years.

Take care.

Russ
 
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They could have save themselfs a lot of trouble and just contracted with Timmy.
 
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