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Just wondering who, besides the members obviously, is going to this.

I am going for the first time and looking forward to it.
 
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101 hits and nobody's going, or nobody's saying they are going.
 
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I would love to go, and I have a bunch of air miles to use. I have been 3 times in the past, but with the SCI Conv. everything is just so busy & crowded that I cannot bring myself to go thru it again. Must be getting old...
 
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Maybe you could post some things to help out

dates, hours. special events, gate entrance fees and requirements, location in Reno, banquets..... for folks that may never have been there


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How about a link to the web site?

http://www.acgg.org/news/firea...nmakers-exhibitionsm
 
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How about a link to the web site?

http://www.acgg.org/news/firea...nmakers-exhibitionsm
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I will be there and so will my 280AI in the one of the "sickest" sticks to come out of Luxus. Smiler
 
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nobody's saying they are going

BINGO, we have a winner rotflmo

Doesn't seem to be workin out this way for ya ol'blue. Change your style to something like this:

Hey guys I'm staying at XXX hotel, room 666, stop by for a drink or two on me, I will have the bar fully supplied. Now last but not least, DO NOT use your Visa card at the Bunny Ranch.
 
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ol'jmmyd223, ol'mildotfever


Hope to see you there.
 
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Guys,

I'll be there as well. I think I've been to about ten of them now, and have a great time with each one. I'll look forward to seeing some of you there.

Tom
 
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I will be at the SCI show on wed and thur.Fri and sat will be spent at the guild show.

Hope to see some of you gentlemen there.


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I saw the raffle project rifle at the last Allentown show, displayed by stockmaker Craig Libhart. The workmanship was impeccable. The appearance, grotesque.
 
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I'll be there. Most of my time will be spent behing the ACGG tables.

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I'll be there again at least for the last day.


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I'm going for my first trip to both the SCI and ACGG/FEGA. Any suggestions for maximizing my experience would be appreciated.

Thanks.
 
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I'm going for my first trip to both the SCI and ACGG/FEGA. Any suggestions for maximizing my experience would be appreciated.

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The ACGG show is pretty small. Just plan to spend the better part of the day and enjoy yourself.

The SCI show is HUGE. My advice is to decide who you want to visit, then mark them down on the map. The show can be mentally(and physically) exhausting because there is so much to see.


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Hunting in Africa is an adventure. The number of variables involved preclude the possibility of a perfect hunt. Some problems will arise. How you decide to handle them will determine how much you enjoy your hunt.

Just tell yourself, "it's all part of the adventure." Remember, if Robert Ruark had gotten upset every time problems with Harry
Selby's flat bed truck delayed the safari, Horn of the Hunter would have read like an indictment of Selby. But Ruark rolled with the punches, poured some gin, and enjoyed the adventure.

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Wanted to go to the SCI show till I discovered they charged such an outrageous fee to see the exhibitors.
Why do the vendors have to pay for the booths and then the public has to pay such a huge amount to get inside?


My biggest fear is when I die my wife will sell my guns for what I told her they cost.
 
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Wanted to go to the SCI show till I discovered they charged such an outrageous fee to see the exhibitors.
Why do the vendors have to pay for the booths and then the public has to pay such a huge amount to get inside?


Post that on the African hunting forum, then stand back and watch the mud fly!


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Hunting in Africa is an adventure. The number of variables involved preclude the possibility of a perfect hunt. Some problems will arise. How you decide to handle them will determine how much you enjoy your hunt.

Just tell yourself, "it's all part of the adventure." Remember, if Robert Ruark had gotten upset every time problems with Harry
Selby's flat bed truck delayed the safari, Horn of the Hunter would have read like an indictment of Selby. But Ruark rolled with the punches, poured some gin, and enjoyed the adventure.

-Jason Brown
 
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I recommend this...

Come to SCI, drop by the Heym booth I will be there introduce your self...

Then plan one day for the ACCG show, it is real small, but it is "flush" with custom gun makers.

If you go to Reno you need to do both...


DOUBLE RIFLE SHOOTERS SOCIETY
 
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ANY of you "AR people" that go to Reno, please come by the Heym booth and ask for Me...

I would love to meet you and shake your hand...


DOUBLE RIFLE SHOOTERS SOCIETY
 
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Wanted to go to the SCI show till I discovered they charged such an outrageous fee to see the exhibitors.
Why do the vendors have to pay for the booths and then the public has to pay such a huge amount to get inside?


Where is it and what does it cost? Link?
 
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Wanted to go to the SCI show till I discovered they charged such an outrageous fee to see the exhibitors.
Why do the vendors have to pay for the booths and then the public has to pay such a huge amount to get inside?



Where is it and what does it cost? Link?


Reno convention center and it costs $150 day, plus SCI membership. No Pro Bono here.


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That is pretty spendy. However, its really not much different than spending $25,000 on a 4 x 4, $1500 on a rifle and scope, a couple of thousand on lodging, $500 on warm clothes, plus another $500 on incidentals to go and shoot an animal that will provide one with a couple hundred pounds of meat that one could purchase for about $1000.

In other words, after all of the expense of getting there (to Reno) and the expense of staying there, it would be foolish not to see everything for a relatively small outlay of $150. I am going to have to break my piggy bank.
 
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I saw the raffle project rifle at the last Allentown show, displayed by stockmaker Craig Libhart. The workmanship was impeccable. The appearance, grotesque.


So how many tickets did you buy Mark? Wink


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I'll check my remaining airmiles and if they haven't all expired, I might go to the guild show or I might go anyway to check the engraving out. I will never go to any show that charges $150 to get in. Mad I can get screwed for that figure by professionals and have fonder memories. Wink


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I saw the raffle project rifle at the last Allentown show, displayed by stockmaker Craig Libhart. The workmanship was impeccable. The appearance, grotesque.


To each his own......while I haven't handled it, it looks extremely cool to me. I'll buy a few tickets, lightning could strike I suppose. Wink


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I have come to understand that in hunting, the goal is not the goal but the process.
 
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I'm going for my first trip to both the SCI and ACGG/FEGA. Any suggestions for maximizing my experience would be appreciated.

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I go the SCI here but when you go to the ACGG you will never be the same! Be afraid very afraid!!! dancing
 
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"I will never go to any show that charges $150 to get in."

Ah, comon Gato, we all know you paid $300 to get in to that Barbara Streisand concert.
 
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If a persons into guided hunts and quality bolt and double rifles, the convenience of seeing several providers in a day is appreciated.
Echols,Miller,Famars,Hoenig,HartmanWeiss,GMA,H&H and other British makers, etc.
For those that can afford or appreciate such, its cheap convenient viewing....cashed-up business people are often moneyrich time poor.
If one wanted to go meet those makers in person outside the show, how much more time and money would it cost to fly around the country if not the world?
 
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"I will never go to any show that charges $150 to get in."

Ah, comon Gato, we all know you paid $300 to get in to that Barbara Streisand concert.


I guess I should back up a bit (and no, I didn't go to the Streisand concert whereever it was Roll Eyes although I do appreciate her voice) but if there was a charity function or some show with an amazing list of comedians or similar that I would enjoy attending, I MIGHT pay $150 or more, but to pay what I consider to be an outrageous amount to get into a show where one goes inside with the basic goal of committing to spending large amounts of money with the exhibitors seems too much like highway robbery to me. I feel the same about the even more outrageous fees and extortions the exhibitors are exposed to, but that's not my problem.

$20 for the guild show seems like a more appropriate and reasonable entrance fee.


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NEVER, EVER book a hunt with BLAIR WORLDWIDE HUNTING or JEFF BLAIR.

I have come to understand that in hunting, the goal is not the goal but the process.
 
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PS: I just checked, it's $105 for one day, not $150 but that's still too much. Let me be clear, I don't have any problem with anyone doing anything they want with their money, if they think it's worth it, more power to them and I hope they enjoy the show. I won't be helping create a crowd.


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NEVER, EVER book a hunt with BLAIR WORLDWIDE HUNTING or JEFF BLAIR.

I have come to understand that in hunting, the goal is not the goal but the process.
 
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Gatogordo,

Absolutely agree and that is the reason I will not attend. Not sure if I understand their motives but they charge the vendors and then they want me to pay me that much to get inside so I can find something to buy? It just doesnt make any sense.


My biggest fear is when I die my wife will sell my guns for what I told her they cost.
 
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PS: I just checked, it's $105 for one day, not $150 but that's still too much. Let me be clear, I don't have any problem with anyone doing anything they want with their money, if they think it's worth it, more power to them and I hope they enjoy the show. I won't be helping create a crowd.


You forgot the SCI annual membership


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Jim:

You're absolutely right, my bad, and that makes it a minimum of $160 for one day if someone is not already a member. Ouch! Mad


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NEVER, EVER book a hunt with BLAIR WORLDWIDE HUNTING or JEFF BLAIR.

I have come to understand that in hunting, the goal is not the goal but the process.
 
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Idared, wil go to Las Vegas but probably not to Reno. Gatogordo, the ACGG project rifles seem to me, over the last several years, to be edging into overdecorative territory. I haven't bought tickets for the last few.
 
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Get this...not only does SCI charge the Exhibitor for floor space which is of course normal each booth space only includes 2 staff passes.

So if you have a booth and want have four staff work it...you have to pay an additional $250 or so per staff.

SCI does lots of good work...but it is also pretty clear that they like to have a high dollar image and operate in a plush environment...


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1. The proper answer to: Where is the best place in town to get a steak dinner? is…You should go to Mel's Diner and get the fried chicken.
2. Big game animals can tell the difference between .015 of an inch in diameter, 15 grains of bullet weight, and 150 fps.
3. There is a difference in the performance of two identical projectiles launched at the same velocity if they came from different cartridges.
4. While a double rifle is the perfect DGR, every 375HH bolt gun needs to be modified to carry at least 5 down.
5. While a floor plate and detachable box magazine both use a mechanical latch, only the floor plate latch is reliable. Disregard the fact that every modern military rifle uses a detachable box magazine.
6. The Remington 700 is unreliable regardless of the fact it is the basis of the USMC M40 sniper rifle for 40+ years with no changes to the receiver or extractor and is the choice of more military and law enforcement sniper units than any other rifle.
7. PF actions are not suitable for a DGR and it is irrelevant that the M1, M14, M16, & AK47 which were designed for hunting men that can shoot back are all PF actions.
8. 95 deg F in Africa is different than 95 deg F in TX or CA and that is why you must worry about ammunition temperature in Africa (even though most safaris take place in winter) but not in TX or in CA.
9. The size of a ding in a gun's finish doesn't matter, what matters is whether it’s a safe ding or not.
10. 1 in a row is a trend, 2 in a row is statistically significant, and 3 in a row is an irrefutable fact.
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Idared, wil go to Las Vegas but probably not to Reno.


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Idared, there are no direct flights from NYC to Reno and minimum transit time is 9 hours, some combos are up to 12. One change. Year before last when I met you there a snowfall screwed up the return trip and I was pooped out by the time I got home, much delayed. I had a good reason to be there that time but no such this year.
 
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Just received an email giving the menu for the saturday evening banquet.

Top sirloin of beef with wild mushrooms, seasonal vegetables, garlic mashed potatoes, with selection of cheesecakes for dessert, coffee/tea. If you have a dietary issue with that you can ask for a plate of chicken or fish or no meat. But they do need to know in advance
 
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Guys,

Attending the SCI Convention is an expensive proposition, no doubt about it. However, it is a members convention, and is the primary fund raising event (by far) for the year for SCI. I'm sure that a minimum of 90% of SCI's income for the year comes from the Convention.

When one considers that there is likely no place else in the entire world where one can visit and talk to the the vast majority of the icons in the hunting and shooting world, all assembled under one roof at the same time, the cost becomes much more justifiable. Is it worth it -- only you can answer that question.

The Guild Exhibition, in town at the same time, is icing on the cake.

For about the same cost as a ticket to a concert with a big name star and hearing he or she sing a few songs, you can actually speak with H&H, Purdey, Westley Richards, Hartmann & Weiss, David Miller, D"Arcy Echols, John Bolliger, and many, many others that are tops in their profession, and have your money go to support the best hunting organization on the planet.

Yes, I know SCI is not without problems and there are no lack of critics. I frequently criticize them myself. However, until someone comes up with a better international organization fighting for hunters rights on a world-wide basis, I'll continue to support the SCI.

Besides, it a hell of a lot of fun.

See you there.

Tom
 
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