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Does anyone have info or blueprints on building a take down rifle. The subject of a light weight backpacking rifle and the Kifaru Rifle has my wanting to build one. H.S. has a take down rifle also, but is a good bit heavier. Dakota also makes one. What kind of lock up for barrel to receiver gives the best accuracy?

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Blaser K95 weighs about 6.8lbs with scope, breaks down to 23.6" and shoots half inch.
 
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I guess that a kiplauf is a good suggestion. Merkel, Simson, Blaser and a few others makes them from Ferlach.

Actually the kiplauf from blaser is a rifle I could think of haveing in my gunvault [Eek!] [Eek!] .

I would prefer the steel receiver and no plastic on mine, a 26 inch barrel would be great. I would be one if they weren't soo krautisch in their design, stockng and engarving [Big Grin] [Big Grin]

If I want a take down on a mauser it have to be a wood take down.
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I would prefer the steel receiver and no plastic on mine, a 26 inch barrel would be great. I would be one if they weren't soo krautisch in their design, stockng and engarving [Big Grin] [Big Grin]
/ JOHAN

Johan, I don't think you'll find any Blaser break-top, single shot rifle (K77 or K95) with a steel receiver. As far as I know, they are all aluminium. However, the locking block is steel, and the locking mechanism has not changed from the K77 to K95. What did change between the two models (unfortunately) was the trigger. The K95 uses the trigger from the R93 - which does contain synthetic parts.

If you don't like the hogs-back stock, get the US model. 1894 got that one, straight rear stock. Barrels, I'm afraid, are "only" 60cm (23.6").

Btw, I'll second the suggestion of using the K95 as a break-down rifle. It really is a nifty gun.

- mike
 
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rifle .410 double, with 20" barrels?

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The one at the following site may not be what you are looking for, but it is a good looking package. Look at the "Co-Pilot."

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I like what Wild West guns has done with the lever action. I want to build one on a bolt action.
The Kifaru use's a barrel that threads in and a set screw to hold it in place, not sure if I care for that set up or not.
The Dakota and H.S. use steel plates that can be adjusted, over time a person will need to adjust them to get rid of any slack between the barrel and action.
I have a 98 action to play around with.
 
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I've built a number of switch barrels on M700 actions. In fact I have one gun that with two bolts can switch from a 270 win to a .450 Ackley magnum. It's all in the trued action, lapped bolts and precision barrel threads. The barrels all use exactly the same profile and I use a HS precision bedding block and free floated barrels. My barrel threads are hand lapped fits. The gun is set up with Leupold QR bases and by switching the barrels and scopes you can reliably maintain a less than 1 inch zero. I index the barrels to the action and have not noticed any loosening to date. I don't even use a set screw on mine. Like a good Benchrest rifle, I lock the barrels up with a portable rear action wrench to just slightly more than hand tight. I have also shot it "hand tight" with no change in accuracy. It consistently shoots MOA or better in all calibers. I think I have 6 barrels for one of them. It makes a great test bed for new cartridges.-Rob

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Robgunbuilder:

I have just purchased a rem 660 in 243 to use as a basis for a switchbarrel. I would be interested in talking to you about your project and how I could possibly hire you to do my gun. I'm thinking I would like to start with 20BR and 6BR. Then who knows from there, I have an extra bolt as well.

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I also live in Las Vegas
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If you don't like the hogs-back stock, get the US model. 1894 got that one, straight rear stock. Barrels, I'm afraid, are "only" 60cm (23.6[/QB]

Indeed he did (6.5x57R)and a fine shooter it is too. A special order 26" barrel to get a little more muzzle weight was possible and duly ordered. However the standard 23.6" barrel arrived and is shooting very well whilst the special order goes back into the production schedule (December)Blaser are 'lending' me the 23.6" barrel and a mount for my troubles [Wink] [Big Grin]

The factory (e mail) is VERY helpful. You are in effect ordering a custom rifle via a factory. Apparently the owners have a soft spot for Kiplaufbuchsen.

It has revitalised my stalking - easy to carry for these old bones, very safe (easy to unload over a gate etc) and a little more challenging stalking as the light weight means longer shots are not currently being attempted!
 
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Originally posted by mho:
, I don't think you'll find any Blaser break-top, single shot rifle (K77 or K95) with a steel receiver. As far as I know, they are all aluminium. However, the locking block is steel, and the locking mechanism has not changed from the K77 to K95.
1894 got that one, straight rear stock. Barrels, I'm afraid, are "only" 60cm (23.6").
- mike

mho..mho
Now you must go back home and do the home work [Big Grin] All blaser does not have the receiver made from old melted coffe pots [Eek!] [Big Grin]
Blaser are avilable with steel receiver, montero at this forum has one [Razz]
I have friends who have the old and new blaser kiplauf's. One has a 6,5X65R with 65 cm octagonal barrel and annother friend of mine got a K77 with a 65 cm barrel in 7X65R. Merkel and Simson also makes with steel receivers upon request or in the more exclusive models.
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/ JOHAN

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Hello Johan not for sure if Montero's Blaser it's steel reciever or have steel engraved inserts glued ( yes glued )on bothe sides , made receiver from cast aluminium it's fairly cheap , made a machined one from steel , not as a standard it's very expensive .

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Hola Daniel,
my K95 does not have any inserts glued anywhere, thank you very much.
the k77's I have owned previously, had the inserts that you mention which, on the other hand, had no effect on the gun's accuracy, beauty being only skin deep...
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1894 (or you other K95 owners), I was just trying to talk STU into a K95 over lunch, how many synthetic parts are there actually on the K95?? I believe the trigger is synthetic (same trigger as R93), but what about the cocking lever?? Is that aluminium or synthetic?? It used to be aluminium on the K77, but Blaser changed the shape and also made it a lot easier to operate with the K95. But what about the material??

And now that we are at it, the K95 in the US form (straight stock) is ambidextrous, yes?? It does not have a cheekpiece, does it?

Johan, I'm not sure you are right about about Blaser single-shot, break-top rifles ever having been available with steel receivers?? The ones I have handled (including my own K77) have had aluminium receivers. I think the K95 is only delivered this way (see a bit down on this page: Sigarms' K95 Page). Now I can't say anything about the early K71, because I have never actually handled one. Anyway, I'm not going to insist I'm right - I just don't know. But the ones I have seen...

- mike

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1894 (or you other K95 owners), I was just trying to talk STU into a K95 over lunch, how many synthetic parts are there actually on the K95?? I believe the trigger is synthetic (same trigger as R93), but what about the cocking lever?? Is that aluminium or synthetic?? It used to be aluminium on the K77, but Blaser changed the shape and also made it a lot easier to operate with the K95. But what about the material??

And now that we are at it, the K95 in the US form (straight stock) is ambidextrous, yes?? It does not have a cheekpiece, does it?

- mike

Only plastic is trigger guard and trigger - you have to use a magnifying glass to see it's not blued metal. I bet you could order a higher grade (engraved metal) guard on a lower grade rifle but IMHO there is no need. The top lever is metal.

Stock has no cheek piece or cast so is ambidextrous.

Finish truly is best custom! Saddle mount rings can be machined for reduction in height by 3/8" - I have the tool available for hire [Wink]

.54" 3 shot group in 34celcius may have been a fluke but it is definately sub inch.
 
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