Just thought I'd share this with all my friends here on this forum as I have hinted of it in the past, but now it has become a reality for me... Took possession of this recently. Alot of planning / discussion / heartache and triumph. The finished barreled action is a tribute to Jim's skill as a master of his trade indeed.

Some notes... the action started off as a Global Trading action from Legacy Sports. Barrel is a cryo-treated 9.3 by Jim Bair of Half Moon barrels. I sent along a Sako 100/200 yd peep for fitting to the rear bridge dovetail as well as an NECG 3+1 express sight. Jim also made a custom magazine box for this as well. Work was done as he could fit it in over a period of time. I am in awe of the worksmanship... can't say enough "Thanks" to Jim for building this one for me!

See link below... Jeff P

Sorry about the above URL... so reposting another URL here. Hoping this one works fine.
Jeff P
Fixed Link to 9.3x64 Brenneke Album on Webshots

Hey Jeff, That looks nice. I've got a question though about the Global Trading action from Legacy Sports. They sold 2 different actions. One was about $300-$400 and the other was very expensive. I've got one sitting at a gunsmiths now, but it's been there so long I forgot what it looks like . Is that the expensive one or the cheaper one? I know mine is the cheaper one, but I can't remember what the diffences were. I do remember it was a little rough and needed slicking up. The smith said that wouldn't be a problem.

I like your barreled action. Jim does very nice work. I'm sure both of you are happy with the way it turned out.

Thanks,
Terry

I think you messed the link up again

Here it is.
9.3X64

Terry

Terry,
This one started out as the least expensive of the M98 options - same as yours I believe. Jim says this is the first and last one of these actions he has and will be working on! Needless to say things were not very well machined on this so it required lots of cleanup to get things right.

IIRC Legacy Sports offered another grade that was polished but not blued??? They also had that larger action with the long tang.
I'll bet your gunsmith will do a nice job on your action as well. Do post pictures when you get it back.

Regards,
Jeff P

Thanks Jeff, will do.

Terry

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Originally posted by TC1:
I think you messed the link up again

Here it is.
9.3X64

Terry

Thanks Terry for the link... you beat me to it!
JP

That's exquisite. Excellent selection of fittings.

jeff

very nicely done. I like the Sako peep.

The addition of that Sako peep brought the LOS up a bit... so the 3-leaf and front sight had to be adjusted for this. Thus they are a bit higher than usual. Jim worked out the details then machined the front sight and rear sight barrel sleeve to fit. He actually remachined another Sako peep housing as you can see in the pictures to get a bit more meat on that peep base - reusing the other peep parts. The peep locks with a knurled thumbscrew in the base on the right side, into a detent in the dovetail.

Jeff P

I went back and found some pictures of the Legacy mauser. I may be mistaken, but it looks like bridges are higher on yours than normal. Are you sure Mr Wisner didn't raise them?

Terry

Really nice! The other action is the Doumolin Magnum action, $3,600 in the white IIRC. It is true magnum mauser sized and a whole 'nother thing from the standard actions. Up there with GMA and others.

OK Tigger, but look at the one Jim Wisner did then look at the other one pictured. On the one Jim did the bridge is at least 1/8" higher.

Compare the two pictures below. Are these the same actions? One picture is lifted from Pfeifer's page (sorry Pfeifer quest for knowledge) and the other is a picture Andy Huebschmann sent me from Sunnyhill Enterprises. They are supposed to be the same actions, but I see some major differences in the bridge detail, mainly height. This might be why Jim Wisner said he wouldn't work on another one

Terry


Pfeifer's Legacy Mauser


Sunnyhill's Legacy Mauser


PS. Andy takes better pictures than Jeff

Could be that he built them up or it could be he sculpted around them and made them more pronounced looking. Seems the sides are scalloped deeper, the nose of the front bridge is cut to the front ring ID making it look taller to me.


After a second look, it would seem at a minimum he built up the front of the rear bridge; the ring dovetail is filled and there is a stop.

TC1-

I have heard about the new "threadless barrel/reciever joint" but this is th efirst picture I have seen of one. Thanks!

Being (trying anyway) serious for a moment, what is the story behind the parts you posted pictures of?

Terry,
Good catch... I never mentioned it but yes Jim did redo the bridges on mine as the original holes were drilled cock-eyed and the dovetails were cut off-center by different amounts... for starters. Recut the new bridges to use the ZG-47 dovetail now with stopped recoil shoulders as you can see. Came out pretty clean and more functional in the end.

No problem snagging picts from my site either. My apologies for not spending more time with the pictures. My Samsung dig camera has a nasty flash on it which I probably should have turned off and I was in a bit of a hurry to get these done.

Curious as to why Andy's has a different bolt on it?

Jeff P

quote:

Originally posted by Marc_Stokeld:
TC1-

I have heard about the new "threadless barrel/reciever joint" but this is th efirst picture I have seen of one. Thanks!

Being (trying anyway) serious for a moment, what is the story behind the parts you posted pictures of?

Marc, that picture was sent to me this morning by Andy Huebschmann from Sunnyhill Enterprises. He sent it so I could see the mounts that he makes for this action. He said he had a few left in stock, but not many. When these actions hit the market nobody had or made mounts for them. At one time Empire rifles used these actions on their semi custom rifles, but have gone to their own "in house" action in the last few years. Sunnyhill Enterprises made the mounts for the Empire line. When Empire dropped this action from the line up, Legacy stopped stocking them and a lot of the actions hit the street's. You could get one at a very attractive price. That's when I bought mine. Most people just re cut the bridge area to accept Talley rings, but I wanted something different for mine. As for the rest of the components in the picture I'm not sure about them as it's not mine. It looks like the start of a very nice rifle though.

These actions are very neat. They came with a 3 position safety, straddle floorplate and integral scope mounts. Not really square bridges, but still nice. The only problem is they were rough as a corncobb. I'm not a gunsmith and it was apparent even to me. They need a lot of slicking up and few things need straightened. I think that's why Empire dropped them in the end.

I think my rifle should turn out to be very unique. A few years ago I found an old 1/2 octagon 1/2 round guild mauser barrel with a full integral rib that was in very good condition on the outside. The barrel was shot out so it was sent to Jim Dubell and re-bored from a .318 to a .338. The action will be surface ground to straighten up the outside and get all the witting off of it. A Blackburn trigger installed, a new straight bolt handle and the barrel will be chambered in .338-06. The 9.3 idea sounds nice but I already have one.

Jeff, I read a post from Jack Belk a few years ago about the bolt on this action. There was something he didn't like about it, but I can't remember what it was. Apparently who ever was building the one in the picture felt the same way (or read the post too ).

Terry

I'd like to know more about what Jack said about that bolt if anyone runs across that thread. The bolt handle is basically FN in pattern - flat and checkered on the inside face but with a stretched handle.

I believe Chic Worthing also built up a 9.3x64 Brenneke on one of these Global Trading actions about the same time I got my action. Thinking he got Morris Melani to recut the dovetails and install a set of his rings on it. I emailed Chic so maybe we'll get his input?

Jeff P

Regarding the picture from Sunnyhill:

They have a military Mauser bolt in it.

Did they throw the original bolt away because of the eluded problem?

I would really like to know what is up with that barrel. I have never seen one with all the "stuff" attached. but the barrel was not threaded. It doesn't really matter, I am just curious because I have never seen it before.

maybe plans for an interrupted thread take down or switch barrel?

Rich
DRSS

Guess I'll just have to ask Jack Belk about that bolt!

Jeff P

Jeff, I wouldn't worry about it. I'm sure if there was any cause for concern Jim would have changed it. I have no plans of changing mine, just the handle.

If you see Jack, tell him we all said hi

Terry

Jeff, very cool rifle!!

Marc,

It looks like one of his CNC intergral feature barrels ready to be threaded and chambered.

Shane Thompson

Thanks for the info Shane! I know almost nothing about CNC gun work and had no idea that is how it is done. Guess I am still stuck in the 19th cnetury