I have a Remington model 1934 action. What is the largest caliber {factory} cartridge that can be used with out changing to a P14 bolt?

Thanks

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Originally posted by maxbear:
I have a Remington model 1934 action. What is the largest caliber {factory} cartridge that can be used with out changing to a P14 bolt?

Thanks

400 Whelen??

Just to be argumentative and maybe informative... The action was re-designed around the .30/'06 for Uncle Sam and made as the 1917. You seem to know that. 7.62x 63 in metric talk. So you can go that long... It is a big, heavy action that takes the belted mag diameter brass without a complaint but you don't want the bigger bolt face... --??-- O.K. On the '06 case the Whelans are "in the running." At the same time, in Europe there are longer cases using this diameter rim. If you don't mind the hassle finding them. ch4d.com maybe? Or Huntingtons.com maybe or Old West Scrounger or ??? And I think there is one big fat case with a rebated rim to Mauser/ '06 diameter (0.473 approx) that would give you magnum capacity with the '06 bolt face. If you don't mind the hassle of finding brass. Otherwise, neck up the .35 Whelan. .375 is common among wildcats. .40 is there. And there is some whining about enough shoulder to support headspace... thus the "Brown-Whelan" luck...

9.3x62, factory ammo and components readily available

The largest you can do (assuming you're willing to open your boltface) is the .470 Capstick, based on the .375 H&H case. It's much like the .458 Lott which is a factory round. The Capstick is not factory.

It takes quite a bit of work to get it there but it's commonly done by several smiths. It does not require a P-14 bolt!

Unless I'm confused and this isn't a Mod 30/Enfield Model 17, the only reason to go to a P14 bolt is for support for a rim as large as the 505 Gibbs. Otherwise, the normal bolt can accomodate anything up to the 416 Rigby/ 460 Weatherby class ctgs. Just takes minor changes in the bolt face and extractor. On the P14 bolt, the left lug extends farther forward than P17 bolts and give some additional support on that side for super big rims like the 505. So you should also be able to do anyhting from a 416 Rigby to the 550 Magnum. If you want "easy" big, try the 550 Magnum.

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Originally posted by vapodog:
The largest you can do (assuming you're willing to open your boltface) is the .470 Capstick, based on the .375 H&H case. It's much like the .458 Lott which is a factory round. The Capstick is not factory.

It takes quite a bit of work to get it there but it's commonly done by several smiths. It does not require a P-14 bolt!

Vapo, my bolt is already supposed to be opened up to accept a 458 lott. The man whom I bought my action from had done this.

I just wanted to know what other options I might have for a larger caliber cartridge. For dangerous game. I want to have this rifle built in a caliber that isn't hard to find factory ammo for in a pich.

I have one sitting here on my desk that was a 510KX, 510 Wells Express minus the irritating belt...same same 416/510 Rigby. I have one in the shop in 505 Gibbs on a P17 with a P14 bolt. IIRX, Numrich has the P14 bolts for about $30 shipped.

Rich
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I want to have this rifle built in a caliber that isn't hard to find factory ammo for in a pich

That would be the .375 H&H.....nothing else comes close.

If you want to avoid lengthening the action the .375 Ruger may be interesting but widespread availability of ammo may take a while.

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Originally posted by maxbear:
[QUOTE] I want to have this rifle built in a caliber that isn't hard to find factory ammo for in a pinch.

Then the best option would be the 375 H&H and then the 416 Remington Magnum. Followed by the Lott.

I talked to a guy the other day who said he would have to look but thinks he might have some Wisner bottom metal. He said it was for the 375 H&H. Would this work for the 458 lott, without having to butcher it?

Probably too narrow in front. The 375 has a of taper and the Lott has almost none. but splitting the box and widening the front is not a big deal.

No need to buy an after market mag box. The original box can be rebuilt to work for 375H&H - 458Lott. I have used this option for both of my Rem 30Ss(458Lott & 375H&H). I get 3 1/2 down in the Lott and 4 down in the 375H&H.

Keith