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Nee help identifying a strange looking wood.
11 January 2018, 22:24
AtkinsonNee help identifying a strange looking wood.
I recently purchased a real clean and nice Simson 12 ga. double...I like everything about it but perhaps the wood...It is a laminate LOOKING wood, but not laminate, its a piece of real wood..It has a blond matrix with many thin black lines running lengthwise thru it and its very porous. Ive seen it on other English guns in the past and its not pretty IMO..Can anyone tell me what kind of wood it is..No guessing please.
Ray Atkinson
Atkinson Hunting Adventures
10 Ward Lane,
Filer, Idaho, 83328
208-731-4120
rayatkinsonhunting@gmail.com
11 January 2018, 22:41
ssdaveHard to even guess without a picture, but have you looked at Baltic Birch? Your description of it sounds a bit like that, but I've mostly seen it on Swedish guns.
Sorry, I know you said no guessing; this is just a suggestion at something you might look at to compare.
11 January 2018, 22:51
dpcdIt is Beech.
No guessing without a picture? Sure; fortunately I am clairvoyant and can see through space.
12 January 2018, 00:30
speerchucker30x378
If it's a Simson Suhl the wood it is best quality, opened grained, figure-less, buzzard grade, European walnut grown to the left of the outhouse!
In the shade of the mountain which in combination with the poop gives it the pasty brownish color.
When I was a kid. I had the stick. I had the rock. And I had the mud puddle. I am as adept with them today, as I was back then. Lets see today's kids say that about their IPods, IPads and XBoxes in 45 years!
Rod Henrickson
12 January 2018, 00:42
richjsounds like Myrtlewood from oregon :-)
12 January 2018, 02:07
craigsterOld growth, vertical grain larch, from the Timbuctu Black Forrest in BFE.
Just guessing.

12 January 2018, 02:49
jeffeossoIt's ROOD
12 January 2018, 04:29
AtkinsonJack Belk told me before I got in the door, Its European Birch, they used it on lower grade guns..
I may restock, but it doesn't look terribly bad kinda like maybe it was grown out of the bowels of an outhouse.
I'll shoot it awhile, it sure is a damn nice gun regardless of the stock, and doubles are easy to stock and I have a nice piece of Russian Walnut from Bill Dowtin..
While Im at it Im going to stock and fix up my Savage mod. 219 Single shot, 30-30...I just shot it and it shoots an honest inch at 50 with iron sights and I could barely see the target. It shot 2 inches high and dead center with one tap to the right with 170 gr. handloads and WW factory 125 gr.to my surprise. In fact it shot everything to the same POI, Not bad for an old girl.....Im going to scope it with a Leupold Alaskan 2.5X, hopefully in old Redfield steel rings and bases..rust blue and case harden the receiver and nitre blue the screws and stuff, shotgun triggr guard for looks replacing the aluminum and a Niedner grip cap and Neidner steel butt plate..Its fun gun deluxe..but its for the shooter who is bored to death and quirky or old or both.....
Ray Atkinson
Atkinson Hunting Adventures
10 Ward Lane,
Filer, Idaho, 83328
208-731-4120
rayatkinsonhunting@gmail.com
12 January 2018, 05:49
carpetman1Two birds were arguing was a piece of wood a son of a beech or a son of a birch. A wood pecker came along so they asked the expert. He sampled it and said that's the finest piece of ash I ever stuck my pecker in.
12 January 2018, 06:13
meteVertical grain larch? I'm not sure about larch but it's American cousin Tamarack has a distinct helical gene and I've seen photos of one that could easily pass for a corkscrew !!

Then how does one get " vertical grain" ? Or does this helix act as a spring , absorbing recoil ?

12 January 2018, 07:46
speerchucker30x378quote:
Originally posted by craigster:
Old growth, vertical grain larch, from the Timbuctu Black Forrest in BFE.
Just guessing.
Hell no. Can't be! Timbuktu is in miles and miles of Starvin Marvin, Bali. But Fuck Egypt is on the other side of Africa. LOL
When I was a kid. I had the stick. I had the rock. And I had the mud puddle. I am as adept with them today, as I was back then. Lets see today's kids say that about their IPods, IPads and XBoxes in 45 years!
Rod Henrickson
12 January 2018, 08:11
craigsterThe forrest's exact location is secret. I've seen horizontal grain larch from there as well. And it's Bum Fuck, not Butt Fuck.
I've got a really cool marble here, can any of you guys tell me what color it is? No pics, sorry
12 January 2018, 08:59
craigsterquote:
Originally posted by mete:
Vertical grain larch? I'm not sure about larch but it's American cousin Tamarack has a distinct helical gene and I've seen photos of one that could easily pass for a corkscrew !!

Then how does one get " vertical grain" ? Or does this helix act as a spring , absorbing recoil ?
Larch and Fir are pretty much the same, have no idea about Tamarack.
Vertical grain Fir:
http://www.decore.com/products...materials/fir-family12 January 2018, 22:04
ssdavequote:
Originally posted by craigster:
quote:
Originally posted by mete:
Vertical grain larch? I'm not sure about larch but it's American cousin Tamarack has a distinct helical gene and I've seen photos of one that could easily pass for a corkscrew !!

Then how does one get " vertical grain" ? Or does this helix act as a spring , absorbing recoil ?
Larch and Fir are pretty much the same, have no idea about Tamarack.
Vertical grain Fir:
http://www.decore.com/products...materials/fir-family
Tamarack is the colloquial name for larch, used in the northwest. Fir and Larch are two different species, although in lumber grading they are grouped together because of similar structural properties. Larch (tamarack) is the only conifer to lose its needles for the winter. They are tall, slender trees, and are very distinctive in the fall with their yellow needles.
13 January 2018, 00:01
dpcdAnd Tamarack is also native to West Virginia; that being the southern most extent of its range.
13 January 2018, 00:31
speerchucker30x378Pine, regardless of it's name and origin, maketh good gun stocks - - - - N O T !
When I was a kid. I had the stick. I had the rock. And I had the mud puddle. I am as adept with them today, as I was back then. Lets see today's kids say that about their IPods, IPads and XBoxes in 45 years!
Rod Henrickson
13 January 2018, 05:49
ssdavePine makes about as good of gun stocks as bondo and remington black plastic do.....
18 January 2018, 10:11
georgeldNo argument there ssDave!
Another: "hell of a deal". I bought 4 over sized planks from a guy in Oregon. Said it was from a big stump of myrtle wood: they're totally grainless. I tried 8 different stains on it trying to get "something" to show. Just as well of been a cardboard box.
They'd be dandy for someone wanting to paint camo on a stock, or great for patterns. I like grain and natural wood myself.
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