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Re: Do the CRF Guys accept Rem 700's for Varmint Work?

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30 August 2004, 12:06
wallyw
Re: Do the CRF Guys accept Rem 700's for Varmint Work?
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Properly-adjusted CF actions......

And therein is the potential problem for the average CRF rifle. They are also more critical with case dimensions and especially extractor groove diameter.

I think in an ideal world the CRF will be better and an ideal world would also include a calibre with a tapered case that reduced the angle of the cartridge leaving the magazine.
Mike



Sure like to hear your rational for this, Mike.
30 August 2004, 15:16
Mike375
Wally

If extractor groove diamter is too big the case won't slide up under the exractor. If it is too small the case falls out if the bolt is pulled back slowly. Ask Winchester Australia about the stainless M70s that came to Australia where there was a compound problem.....poor/variable extractor dimensions mixed up with variable brass.

Mike
30 August 2004, 17:23
AnotherAZWriter
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I don't think that benchrest-type actions have anything to offer big game hunters in terms of real-world accuracy advantages. Not unless you have big game hunting confused with pocket gopher hunting, or spend more time hunting statistics than trophy animals.




I will take ALL the accuracy I can get. I can only think of one gunsmith who uses Mod 70s - David Miller. All of the guys I have run across prefer custom actions which are invariably PFs.

In one of his books Carmichel states that the PF Mod 70 was actually more accurate than the CRF model...
30 August 2004, 18:02
Mike375
AnotherAZWriter

D'Arcy Echols is M70.

I think you will find that virtually all very high end custom "hunting" style rifles are on either M70 or Mauser and/or M70/Mauser copies. However this will be a case of what is seen to be right. I for one would not even consider a PF for a very high end 375 H&H or 270 Winchester.

On the other hand I would not consider a CRF for a 30/378, 300 Ultra or one of the Lazzeroni calibres. Not for mechanical reasons but rather just what seems "right"

Undoubtedly "the lower end of the high end" is more than well represented by PFs with Nesika rifles, Lazzeroni, custom shop Weatherbys.

Mike
31 August 2004, 02:26
AnotherAZWriter
Mike:



Fair dinkum? Just kidding. I totally agree.



On the high end custom rifle side, I would never build a M700 but a Mod 70. On the other hand, if I did that, I wouldn't expect it to be top of the heap in the accuracy world. I love my Mod 70 and it is quite accurate, but if I want the most accurate rifle, I go with a PF.