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just bought a timney for my mod 70, has anyone any info on the fitting, it seems that there needs to be some minor fitting required any advice would be appreciated. It also states that the trigger pull should not be set less than 2lbs, I wanted a timney to be able to adjust the trigger to about 1.5lbs, which if this is the case then its going back... regards griff | ||
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The Winchester trigger can be adjusted down to about 2 pounds with a little work from a knowledgable smith . The hunting imperative was part of every man's soul; some denied or suppressed it, others diverted it into less blatantly violent avenues of expression, wielding clubs on the golf course or racquets on the court, substituting a little white ball for the prey of flesh and blood. Wilbur Smith | |||
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I know you made up your mind to use a timney but, the Model 70 trigger is the easiest and best factory trigger to adjust by any competant smith and by most mechanically inclined amateurs. Send the Timney back for a refund and get a smith to set yours up. It will reliably hold 1 1/2 lbs and be as crisp as a glass rod breaking when setup right and shouldn't cost as much as the timney to do it. "I ask, sir, what is the Militia? It is the whole people. To disarm the people is the best and most effective way to enslave them" - George Mason, co-author of the Second Amendment during the Virginia convention to ratify the Constitution | |||
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thanks all, heres the next question, I bought the timney off gunbroker.com so a refund is out of the question! Out of the two triggers which would you prefer? Also I tried to fit the timney the other night, and couldn't get the bolt to come back after I fitted it! Turns out that I need to take about 30 thou of the top of the trigger so that it will clear the bolt is this normal? Again I noticed that the trigger unit does not sit parrallel to the action. Obviously the machining in the action is too deep and the trigger unit over cants and does not sit parrallel. Either a thin spacer plate between the action and the trigger housing would stop this but is not the ideal scenario,or I put up with the unit not being square with the action and file 30 thou off the top... any suggestions appreciated regards griff | |||
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Timneys, in my limited experience, are anything but drop-in propositions. I remember tearing my hair out over trying to install one in a M70. In the end I gave up, and brought it to my smith - although I have to admit to belonging to the category of "mechanically challenged" people... If you can safely get your M70 trigger down to about 2 lbs - and I know at least one smith who safely sets M70 triggers lighter than that - then I'd personally go with the M70 trigger. In terms of a lighter weight of pull, the Timney is not going to offer anything extra, and the M70 trigger has the advantage of being ultra-simple, a fact you might appreciate in the field with ice, snow or dust all around. - mike ********************* The rifle is a noble weapon... It entices its bearer into primeval forests, into mountains and deserts untenanted by man. - Horace Kephart | |||
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Give them a call. I have talked to them a few times and they are very helpful. it's a fresh wind that ... Blows Against the Empire | |||
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had a smith install a Timney in one of my Winchesters-fine trigger. The pros and cons are real. I have used the likes of Timneys for many years here in the bush and never had a problem like mentioned of ice or sand storms or whatnot and if that is the case you're in some pretty severe life threating situations if that is the case carry a handgun as well. I have a FN98 that I will have a smith hone down and I expect that to be the "daisy". | |||
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Tried a Timney on my own Model 70 (gunsmith fitted) but in reality found it no better than that of the factory model 70. They (Winchester) are excellent triggers and can be worked to give a let of as low as 2 lbs (possibly even lower by someone who knows what they are doing). Put the Timney onto e-bay and stick with the Winchester trigger | |||
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Timney will help over the phone and or send you a manual. I have 5 mocel 70s. 1 of them has a canjar trigget, It's nice but I prefer the winchester trigger. ...tj3006 freedom1st | |||
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Allen said it all. Timan | |||
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A stock M70 trigger that's been done by a gunsmith that know's his stuff is a sweet thing isn't it. Terry -------------------------------------------- Well, other than that Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play? | |||
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The Winchester is a fine hunting and target trigger. In rare instances an aftermarket trigger may be a better application not a better solution. At that point a different action/trigger is the answer. square shooter | |||
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If you really want the ultimate after-market trigger for a M70, the Timney is not it. The Jewell is, there is just no comparison. But again, if you are happy with a 2-2.5 lbs pull, the factory model 70 trigger really is very good. - mike ********************* The rifle is a noble weapon... It entices its bearer into primeval forests, into mountains and deserts untenanted by man. - Horace Kephart | |||
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I have 5 Model 70's I have been down the road installing Timmey triggers on Model 70. You half to modify the cocking peace are the caming surface on the safety. Modifing the safety requires disassembley of the bolt. This requires a tool to be made to disamble the fireing pin to got to the safety. If remove to much metal you screw things up. Parts half to replaced. I installed tmo Timmeys on my Mobel 70's A lot of work and hard to get safety to work smooth. I highlly recommed you sell the Timmey. The Model 70 trigger is easy to adjust. If you wont a trigger the will work like a Timmey Send it to the gunsmith listed below. Mark has done three for me he is an expert on the Model 70. He does a complete trigger job on the factory trigger. The three he did for me break nice and clean, I have them set a 3 pounds. They pass the drop and rubber hammer test on end of barrel. Mark can safely get it down to 2 to 2.5 pounds. Mark Penrod Penrod Precision 312 East Colledge Ave. North Manchester, IN 46962-1141 260-982-8385 | |||
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