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Rifle with this kind of setup

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02 January 2002, 10:16
Pyrotek
Rifle with this kind of setup
What models of (bolt-action) rifle combines trigger with bolt release(i.e. bolt can be released after pulling trigger)?

I know Mosin-Nagant is one, any others?

02 January 2002, 10:19
<redleg155>
Not remembered much now, but the Reminton .22 rimfires of a while ago do. My 521-T is one of them...don't know about the others of that era.

redleg

02 January 2002, 10:34
Pyrotek
redleg155, now you reminded me, all my rimfire bolt actions are like that.

I shoulda said "centerfire bolt action rifles".

02 January 2002, 12:18
<Bill Tompkins>
Pyrotek,

The Voere "Shikar" uses this bolt release system.

I'd have to check to be sure but if memory serves me, the Shultz & Larson Mdl. 65 has the trigger pushed forward to release the bolt.
It just goes to show that memory isn't all it's cracked up to be. It's the Herter's U-9 actions that need to have the trigger pushed forward to remove the bolt.

Bill

[This message has been edited by Bill Tompkins (edited 01-02-2002).]

02 January 2002, 12:21
<333-OKH>
It's been a while but I remember the Savage 110 being of that ilk.

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02 January 2002, 19:36
loud-n-boomer
The Winchester Model 54.
02 January 2002, 20:10
<David>
Weatherby MK Vs
03 January 2002, 03:26
<jim k>
Voere Black Forest also uses the trigger to release the bolt.
Jim
03 January 2002, 04:19
<manhasset>
The Sweedish Husqvarna HVA action, the one S&W put their name on. Models A,B,C,D,E. used the streamlined action.
03 January 2002, 14:20
Jay, Idaho
Weatherby Mk 5
03 January 2002, 15:17
Pyrotek
Thanks for replies.
I didn't know there are so many using this setup (I too found a couple military rifles from the exploded drawing book also use this setup)

Here's what confuses me : To release the bolt stop, trigger is squeezed back(except guns that use forward motion like Bill said), this "squeezing back" is usually a large movement,
but a "nice trigger" usually have a stop screw to limit overtravel to a minimum, meaning the trigger is not allowed a large movement. How do other gun designs allow BOTH positive bolt release AND minimum overtravel? (using some sort of 2-stage trigger?) Mosin-Nagant rifles as I know of, have creepy triggers and overtravel of 10 feet.

03 January 2002, 17:28
Bill Leeper
In many cases the trigger comes up against an additional spring at the end of it's travel. That is to say there is a trigger spring and in addition a bolt stop spring.
Commercial rifles using this system would include the Wby MkV,Win54,BSA,husqvarna, Savage 340 and a host of others I have forgotten or never knew!
The Canjar trigger for the Wby seperated the boltstop from the trigger to simplify things. Regards, Bill