02 January 2002, 10:16
PyrotekRifle with this kind of setup
What models of (bolt-action) rifle combines trigger with bolt release(i.e. bolt can be released after pulling trigger)?
I know Mosin-Nagant is one, any others?
02 January 2002, 10:19
<redleg155>Not remembered much now, but the Reminton .22 rimfires of a while ago do. My 521-T is one of them...don't know about the others of that era.
redleg
02 January 2002, 10:34
Pyrotekredleg155, now you reminded me, all my rimfire bolt actions are like that.
I shoulda said "centerfire bolt action rifles".
02 January 2002, 12:18
<Bill Tompkins>Pyrotek,
The Voere "Shikar" uses this bolt release system.
I'd have to check to be sure but if memory serves me, the Shultz & Larson Mdl. 65 has the trigger pushed forward to release the bolt.
It just goes to show that memory isn't all it's cracked up to be. It's the Herter's U-9 actions that need to have the trigger pushed forward to remove the bolt.
Bill
[This message has been edited by Bill Tompkins (edited 01-02-2002).]
02 January 2002, 12:21
<333-OKH>It's been a while but I remember the Savage 110 being of that ilk.
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03 January 2002, 03:26
<jim k>Voere Black Forest also uses the trigger to release the bolt.
Jim
03 January 2002, 04:19
<manhasset>The Sweedish Husqvarna HVA action, the one S&W put their name on. Models A,B,C,D,E. used the streamlined action.
03 January 2002, 15:17
PyrotekThanks for replies.
I didn't know there are so many using this setup (I too found a couple military rifles from the exploded drawing book also use this setup)
Here's what confuses me : To release the bolt stop, trigger is squeezed back(except guns that use forward motion like Bill said), this "squeezing back" is usually a large movement,
but a "nice trigger" usually have a stop screw to limit overtravel to a minimum, meaning the trigger is not allowed a large movement. How do other gun designs allow BOTH positive bolt release AND minimum overtravel? (using some sort of 2-stage trigger?) Mosin-Nagant rifles as I know of, have creepy triggers and overtravel of 10 feet.
03 January 2002, 17:28
Bill LeeperIn many cases the trigger comes up against an additional spring at the end of it's travel. That is to say there is a trigger spring and in addition a bolt stop spring.
Commercial rifles using this system would include the Wby MkV,Win54,BSA,husqvarna, Savage 340 and a host of others I have forgotten or never knew!
The Canjar trigger for the Wby seperated the boltstop from the trigger to simplify things. Regards, Bill