dang it, putting a ebony tip on is a FRICKIN hassle...

for all those that wanted me to put one on my 500 jeffe, g.. thanks.. i think

jeffe

While you're at it, don't forget the "Widows Peak"......DJ

Jeffe,

How many dowels, 90 degree or 45

It is better to put the ebony tip on the "blank" prior to having the wood turned or after the initial cut out while it is still square to world..I don't use dowels, I use 2 short sections of screw rod..inlet flat to flat with inletting black for a real nice fit and glass with black glass and lots of torq on the clamp...mill, plane or cut everything square and start you stock making...It's not much hassle this way...At least thats the way I do it.

I don't use dowel or screws. Put a tenon on the end of the stock and machine a mortise for the tenon in the ebony. Like the Brits use to do.

Yea, it's harder to do but it looks great because at the top line of the stock you have a 1/16th band of ebony on the outside and a 1/16 band of walnut on the inside for the depth of the tenon. Even knowledgeable people scratch their heads on that one.

Roger,
So correct me if I am wrong. You make the tennon just narrower than the width of the forend tip so it is black on the outside and walnut brown just a shade inside and visible on the top flat. You are an evil person. Has to look wonderful and take forever.

I use dowels but I turn them on my lathe out of scrap walnut. I use two and glue them in with hand made glue that is derived from the saliva of a certain bird known locally as the foo bird, found only in certain jungles of the amazon. They are very rare and they have an unusal defense mechanism. When persued they will fly in ever decreasing concentric circles finally disapperaing up their own fundamental orifice, coming out occasionally to throw shit at the enemy. No that isnt true, actually they will fly and shit on your head. Somewhat like our native pidgeon. The key issue here is if you wipe it off you die instantly. A lot of people have wiped it off after months and they died. You have to let it wear off. That is where the saying came from, "If the foo shits wear it."

Chic,

I think you inquired about the horn forend tip I installed on my Alex. Henry replica muzzleloader. I used the method described above.

It can be time consuming, but doesn't need to be if you are working off of a pattern.

I just did one on a model 70 project; I use dowels and drill and mill both the ebony block and the stock in the Bridgeport. That way I know bothe will fit up correctly.

Chic, we got something like that in MN, we call it the Kee-bird. This one only comes out in the cold weather and never if it is warmer than -35. You can tell it is the bird when you hear its call:

KEEEEE-rist it's cold out here!

Jim

Jim,
From my memories of MN and the weather he had the opportunity to be out a lot.

FLA,
you are a very bad man... now i have to go rip mine apart...

1 dowel, tablesaw to rough square, bridgeport to get closer.. and a nice sharp knife, and a fine file... and I be it will STILL look like junk.. commonly called "jeff did it"...

put it on before it was shaped? heh.. would have been great, but I received it without...

jeffe

I have always undercut the walls of the holes and scored the rods annularly to get a geometric "lock".

Never have I really trusted those oily woods to stick no matter how much they were degreased....

Jeffe,
Thats even simplier, when you have the stock turned for your pattern request an Ebony Forend tip, and don't terry on the situation, get passed it quick and it will only dawn on the turner after you have hung up the phone,,,it works, trust me.

Same if ording a simi turn I suppose..They will do a f.e. tip for about $25.00 extra I would think??? I don't work from simi turned stuff so I am not sure of this but it seems logical..

Ray,
it's (yet another) stock for my 500... i went, got good advice, better help, and have been very patient... and then I decided i really wanted one... so, a little work for me. .. perhaps it will work out good

jeffe

fla3006, Thanks for the pic. Widows Peaks are beautiful when done well like this one.......DJ

Billy,
1 dowel, 90d... gorilla glue (might have screwed upthere)

jeffe

Scrollcutter:

Could you post a picture of this forend tip treatment? I don't think I have seen one...

jpb

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I don't use dowel or screws. Put a tenon on the end of the stock and machine a mortise for the tenon in the ebony. Like the Brits use to do.

Yea, it's harder to do but it looks great because at the top line of the stock you have a 1/16th band of ebony on the outside and a 1/16 band of walnut on the inside for the depth of the tenon. Even knowledgeable people scratch their heads on that one.

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