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23 July 2004, 18:38
HenryC470
Surface grinder
I can maybe get my hands on one our company's machine shop no longer needs. I'll try and post the brand name. Condition looks old and used. It needs a wheel. The table moves just fine and feels smooth.

Is this possibly a valuable item to anyone? I'll post the brand name later. The thing weighs a whole lot more than I can lift. I reckon shipping will be steep. Take that into consideration. I guess I can figure out how much it's worth by looking at eBay. I just thought someone here may have an idea.

H. C.
24 July 2004, 01:12
jeffeosso
Henry,
these things vary from 650 bucks to 25,000, depending...

What voltage is it? loads of them are 440, which can be rewired to 220 3ph, either would require a VFD which aint cheap.

jeffe
24 July 2004, 04:53
Taurus Bill
My pop has a 220 3 phase converter for his lathe, and he's looking for a grinder. Pass on the particulars and I'll see if he's interested. WV is only a long day's round trip if it'll fit in the back of a pick up.

Bill
24 July 2004, 05:16
Customstox
Henry,

You will find a lot of them on Ebay and shipping can be a problem. I found a K O Lee on Ebay that was unused and got it for $1400, which was about 16% of the original cost and I got it shipped for $400. The wheels are not that expensive. You also need a diamond wheel dresser and a magnetic clutch but it likely has that.



A lot of these tools are a lot bigger than a person needs to surface grind actions but you use what you can.
24 July 2004, 06:13
thefinegunmaker
HC
I bought a DoAll 6X12 220 volt 3phase on ebay for just under $500. I should have insisted that I see it run it before loading it on my truck. Got it home, wired it up to my home made $75 rotary phase converter, and the spindle bearings made a very loud noise. I didn't think this would be a very expensive problem untill I priced the bearings. The 4 class 7 angular contact spindle bearings run around $800. Having somebody replace them and run them in for 40 hours would have cost $1500. Now a good runing grinder looks pretty cheap to me selling for $1500. I ended up taking my spindle apart and replacing the rear two bearings with class 2 bearings for $40. It doesn't grind with a perfect finish, but for gunwork where everything is polished before bluing, and less than $550 invested, it works pretty good. When I do buy another I will bring my own grinding wheel, diamond dressor and a chunk of steel to check the finish. Another reason the finish may not be perfect is my phase converter. Real 3 phase will produce a noticably better finish than homemade. The VFD inverters will also produce a better finish that a rotary or static converter. I can polish out the grinding marks with a few swipes of 220 wet/dry so it works fine for me.

gunmaker
24 July 2004, 13:03
HenryC470
It's a Boyar-Schultz Hydraulic Surface Grinder.



It was sold by Apex Machine Tool Supply in Charlotte, NC.



It runs on 208-200 or 440 V 3 phase. It's currently wired for 440, but anyone who'd buy such a thing probably knows how to switch over to 220.



It appears to have a dust collector duct running into the lower part of the stand/cabinet. I neglected to check out the magnetic chuck. The table does have a long slot that looks as if it's made for T-nuts.



H. C.