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| My smith has just built the most beautiful rifle I have seen in real life and it was on a 1909 Argentine it was a .300 H&H as well. |
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| I'd go with a Rem 700 or 721. Preferably the 700, but if you're hung up on CRF, then by all means, go with the model 70! I love the 300 H&H. It's my favorite cartridge hands down. |
| Posts: 852 | Location: Austin | Registered: 24 October 2003 |
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| Like many gunsmiths (I'm not), I don't particularly care for the way Winchester lengthened its magazine for the H & H series by removing some of the forward feed ramp and thus weakening the right (bottom) lug seat. But I've never heard of an action failure in these, so I guess that's just a matter of taste. Most custom smiths prefer to lengthen the M70 magazine to the rear, leaving the front feed ramp/lug seat in tact.
Rather than spend money modifying a M70, I would prefer to use a Sako L61 or AV which already has a long enough magazine. Sakos can be pricey, of course (although no pricier than old M70's). If you want economy, it would be hard to beat a Remington 700 magnum action which also has an adequate magazine. Just buying a used "beater" M700 in 7mm Remington for the salvage action is probably the cheapest way to go. You might get enough out of the salvage barrel to help defray some of your costs.
Lengthening a Mauser is a challenge and will be expensive, but makes a fully satisfactory gun. |
| Posts: 13277 | Location: Henly, TX, USA | Registered: 04 April 2001 |
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| I'll second Kingfisher's vote for a 700 or 721. I have a 721 in 300 H&H and it shoots awesome. Nothing has ever been done to it, it is the way it was the day it rolled off the line except for a refinish job on the stock. Nothing wrong with a CRF model 70 either, its just a personal preference thing. To me, the 300 H&H speaks for itself, no matter what action may house it.
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| Posts: 193 | Location: Laramie, Wyoming | Registered: 01 October 2003 |
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| Take a look on the web sales pages-- Remington made a 700 classic in 300 H + H. Winchester also made the XTR in 300 H + H, you can probably find one that came from the factory for less than it will cost you to make one. I have one of each of the above and am very happy with them. |
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| The gun on the bottom is my M70 Classic that was rebarreled as a .300 H&H: The gun started as a 7mm RM and the barrel was from a .30-06. My gunsmith also did a little grinding work so the barrel reads .300 H&H. I shoot .8 MOA with 200 grn Nosler Partitions in front of 65 grns of RL 22. Very few rifles say "class" like a Model 70 in .300 H&H. (although I might be a little biased ) |
| Posts: 580 | Location: Mesa, AZ | Registered: 11 May 2001 |
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| JL-
Both of those rifles are beauties. I am a huge .300 H&H fan myself.
Let me make sure I understand how you accomplished your .300 H&H. You took a "take-off" Model 70 Classic barrel in .30-06 and had it rechambered to .300 H&H? If that is correct, that is pretty ingenius.
I suppose you had to have the magazine box altered a tad? |
| Posts: 1323 | Location: San Antonio, Texas | Registered: 04 March 2003 |
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| I'm a M-70 fan and will usually only look at the winchesters....but one day I found this Remington 721 in .300 H&H for $265...needless to say I bought it and restocked it and the damn thing shoots 200 grain Swift A-Frames into very little groups. It's feeding and extraction is absolutely flawless and it has become my "go to" rifle whenever a .300 mag is called for. It's the gun I took to Africa and left my M-70 in .300 Win Mag home. CRF isn't an issue with a .300 mag because dangerous game is not on the menu although one never knows!!! This is one extroadinary rifle!! |
| Posts: 28849 | Location: western Nebraska | Registered: 27 May 2003 |
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| I have a pre-64 M70 in 300HH that has a classic side scope mount and a receiver sight that I'll part with.. Send me an e-mail if you are interested in negotiating. Ku-dude |
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| I've always wanted a rifle in this caliber too, and finally decided to do something about it. My first 300 H&H is still with the 'smith, who is barreling an Enfield action. |
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| It's pretty easy to take a pre 64 30-06 and convert it to a 300 H&H, thats what mine is but with an original 300 H&H Win. pre 64 barrel....
You could also find a pre 64 in 300 H&H for about $900. to a $1000 in good condition..I have seen several lately at some of our gun shows...
It is a classic.... |
| Posts: 42320 | Location: Twin Falls, Idaho | Registered: 04 June 2000 |
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Both of those rifles are beauties. I am a huge .300 H&H fan myself.
Let me make sure I understand how you accomplished your .300 H&H. You took a "take-off" Model 70 Classic barrel in .30-06 and had it rechambered to .300 H&H? If that is correct, that is pretty ingenius.
I suppose you had to have the magazine box altered a tad?
Thanks for the compliment. The top is my .338 Win on a Springfield. MichaelS. of this forum did the work on both guns.
Yep, we had to machine the box and the follower a little. Not too much, but it wouldn't have worked otherwise. |
| Posts: 580 | Location: Mesa, AZ | Registered: 11 May 2001 |
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| JL, If you are addressing me...I took an 30-06 pre 64 action, stuck a pre 64 300 H&H barrel, and bottom metal on it and cut the rear ring back a bit etc. simply made it a pre 64 M-70 300 H&H the same way that Winchester did it..even cut the half slot in the rear of the front ring...Dennis Olson did the metal and I built the stock.. |
| Posts: 42320 | Location: Twin Falls, Idaho | Registered: 04 June 2000 |
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| Kevin, Check-out my post in ".300 H&H Velocities". I came across it before I saw yours. All the best, Sam eclemmons@hotmail.com |
| Posts: 702 | Location: Lenoir. N.C. | Registered: 18 September 2000 |
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| Here's mine. A Winchester classic, it started out as a 7mm RM. A Shilen #3 fit's the stock with only minor sanding. The smith just cut back the bolt stop and took out the magazine spacer. Functions perfectly and a good shooter too. |
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| Wow! Has that scope ever brained you? Sure seems like it's back too far. But, maybe the LOP is right for you and that's where you need the scope. It would split my head in two. |
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Here's mine. A Wichester classic, it started out as a 7mm RM. A Shilen #3 fit's the stock with only minor sanding. The smith just cut back the bolt stop and took out the magazine spacer. Functions perfectly and a good shooter too.
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A very nice looking rig!! Could you tell us about the barrel length and your rib/front sight set-up; it gives your rifle a good look.
Thanks in advance. |
| Posts: 1323 | Location: San Antonio, Texas | Registered: 04 March 2003 |
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| Thanks, The barrel is #3 shilen 25" long, The quarter rib is a Dakota Arms unit from Brownells part# 359-105-003 $75. The rear express sight is also a Dakota Arms part# 359-210-276 $15. The front sight is a NEGC unit from Brownells, the banded base, front sight blade and hood will run about $100. The quarter rib will need to be machined to the right height and a dove-tail cut for the express sight. Another really neat feature on the rifle is a set of custom bases Michael Scherz 928-783-3850 did for me (he also did the quarter rib)They look really nice. Terry |
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