Hello again;

The flurry of talk about 9.3x62's has started me thinking. My dad & I just picked up 1908 Brazilian DWM actions, and are planning a pair of nice ones.

After some reading on HA, I'm afraid to proceed with the 338 Win Mags as originally planned, in these old actions; I'll save that for a VZ-24. I really like the idea of the 9.3 from Europe in the Mauser, and not having to pay for all that magnumizing would mean extra for some other frills.

I'm planning on open sights (not even drilled / tapped), barrel band sling swivel and front sight, floorplate release lever from Brownells, and the original safety. My dad's will probably have a scope / no sights.
A few questions:

Will the 7x57 follower work as I suspect?

I'm guessing no work to the feed rails -- correct?

Any ideas where I could get a short chambered barrel, at a reasonable price?

Thanks,
Todd

Todd,

The 9.3x62 is based upon the 30-06 case which was blown out (taper reduced), and the shoulder moved forward. The 7x57 follower will probably work, but the rails may be a tad narrow. Opening them up is well within the capabilities of a good gunsmith.

Try Montana Rifleman for a short chambered 9.3 barrel. Mine is really nice; they had them in stock, and they are nice to do business with. Use all the barrel they sell you! I wish my rifle had a longer barrel.
A longer barrel will be an advantage in achieving higher velocities with this round. See Ray Atkinson's posts on this round. By the way, I think he likes the Lothar barrel for this caliber.

You can rent reamers from several companies. We rented a 9.3x62 reamer from Shawee (661-944-5151). I found them on the www. try reamerrental.com My gunsmith was very pleased with the quality of the reamer they provided. They want $30 for three days.

I think your choice of this cartridge for a Brazilian 98 is a very good one. Good luck on your project. Ku-dude

[This message has been edited by ku-dude (edited 09-10-2001).]

Thanks for the reply, Ku-Dude.

You answered some questions I hadn't even thought of yet (reamer). I have talked with people at Montana Rifleman before, and found them pleasant to work with. Decent prices too.

Take care,
Todd

when it comes to reamers, Todd, you can also try www.reamerrentals.com they tend to have a fairly, shall we say, varied choice in stock...

Todd,
You my want to add up the cost of the barrel, tooling, blueing, not to mention all the time and work, and compare that to what Montana Rifle charges for the finnished and blued packaged deal.
Good luck on your project.

Here we go:-

Lovely gun, I have one on an Argentine 09 and it is a true quart in a pint pot so to speak but some care/awareness is necessary.

1. Long COLs/using crimping grooves supplied will result in bullet nose damage. This does not appear to affect accuracy. I'm talking here of an action that has not been opened out lengthwise and a standard magazine box.

2. In hand with the bullet nose damage can come shortening of the remaining loaded rounds especialy if you don't have a crimping groove. Some makes of brass have obviously been necked up from 30-06 by the manafacturer and so have very thin necks that are unable to provide enough neck tension to hold onto bullets well enough without a crimping groove. RWS for one.

3. Will take 4 in a standard magazine box but only feed reliably with 3. Hence 3 in the mag and one up the spout is OK. Problem appears to be the shoulder being less tapered and so allowing the rear of the top round of 4 to waggle up and down. In the down position the bolt doesn't pick up the round and a misfeed results. Removing metal might work, I haven't dared.

Ku-dude,

Dare I ask how a cartridge designed in 1904 managed to improve a 30-06? Was the 06 around before 06? (I dimly remember it might have been in a heavier RN form?)

1894

The 30/06 first came out as the 30/03 in 1903 , with a 220 gr roundnose and a longer neck than the present cartridge. In 1906 , the neck was shortened , and the bullet changed to a 150 gr spitzer , and it became the 30/06 .

As to whether the 06 was the inspiration for the 9.3x62 , who knows ? All the common Mauser cartridges share the same basic head size with the 06 .

I'd rather say the 9,3x62 is based on the 8x57 case. The former was developed around 1905 by a Berlin gunmaker named Otto Bock.

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Andr�

The 9.3x62 case is based on the 9.3x62 case. It just happens that you can make brass out of O6 brass, but it is a little short once blown out to .366 and the 06 case won't take as much powder therefore will not get the velocity, but its close enough for Gov. work I suppose...Like any cartridge you can make brass out of another in 99% of the cases.

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Ray Atkinson

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