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Fair price for Pre-64 model 70........opinions?
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Gentlemen,

Would like to get a few opinions as to what the current market value is for one of these. I know, I have the trader books and all, but the values they have are often out of synch with current market values.

So the rifle is the following:

1953 standard grade.
30-06 w/ Monte Carlo.
Absoutley original and 100% intact and un altered from crown to butt.
Original owner.
Probably in the vicnity of 90-95% overall and apparently very well maintained and shot relatively little.

Ok, I tell you what he wants. Owner wants $650 which to me seems fair for both buyer and seller.

Any thoughts appreciated!

Bob
 
Posts: 140 | Registered: 22 October 2002Reply With Quote
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That price is very fair if the rifle is as described, and I'd buy one like that for that kind of money myself any time.

What will $650 buy you in the way of a new production rifle on today's market, anyway? Not much! Even a lot of the accurate-junk and/or Jap-junk rifles at places like Walmart approach that kind of price, and I wouldn't own most of that stuff on a bet--let alone hunt with it.

The old pre-64 Model 70s are better-made, better-built, and much higher-quality rifles than anything you can purchase today new and off-the-shelf. With today's excllent ammunition and components, they'll also shoot very, very well indeed, and feed better than any other production rifle that's ever been produced.

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BB, that's a fair price if you want an 06.
 
Posts: 1605 | Location: Wa. State | Registered: 19 November 2001Reply With Quote
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Absolutely! Buy it and have a Brown or Bansner synthetic stock with a Delerator installed. Then, get a Sourdough front sight and an integral peep sight with Talley base from Brockman, get the front base from Talley with appropriate rings and put a good scope on it, I like Leupy 1.75x6.

Then, load Win. brass, CCI 250 primers, Nolser PT. Gold Moly Free s over 55-57 grs. IMR-4350. This will give you about the most useful, no bullshit rifle for North America that you can ever hope to have. NOBODY ever made a better hunting rifle than the old Mod. 70 and damned few rifles made anywhere are as good!

Again, those are the best '70s, the early '50s ones, IMO, and the price is very good.
 
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What Allen said,ditto.
If you have not owned and hunted with one yet...you will love it.And if the rifle is as you say,and you don't like it...
I'll buy it from you, for what you paid for it.
Jeff
 
Posts: 2482 | Location: Alaska....At heart | Registered: 17 January 2002Reply With Quote
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AMEN to that.....

"no bullshit rifle" is right!

Good '06 recipe you mentioned, as well.

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You buy it then I'll give you $750 for it.. Fastest $100 you ever made.. What do you say ?
Pat
 
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Lots of good advice above.

Those rifles were kind of heavy and when the Featherweight came out it was a better idea in my opinion.

Buy it of course. It's worth it and more if you shoot it or not. Rifles like that are just nice to handle and shoot at the range if nothing else.

Kute has a very good plan if your going to hunt with it.
 
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You know with everything that you'll have to do to that thing to make a good hunting rig, you're gonna have spend a lot more money.....Tell you what, why don't you just tell this guy to drop ship it over to me, and I'll see if I can make something out of it. I mean after all, I wouldn't want you get stuck with this thing





Damn, I doubt he's buying it.....

Can't blame a guy for trying

Have fun.....you'll most definitely like it, that is of course if you really want it.
 
Posts: 1021 | Location: Prineville, OR 97754 | Registered: 14 July 2002Reply With Quote
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Well thanks for all the positive feedback!

I WILL be buying it, and let you guys know how it goes, if you care to hear.

I never owned one, and feel as though I NEED to give it a whirl. Will probably keep it as is for a while seeing as it is a fairly nice gun. If it were a bit more hacked-up I would definitely go the route suggested. It's like when I see somebody tub-out an all original 1963 split-window (for you car guys), it really makes me ill.

Oh yeah, I wasn't really buying it Matt, but thanks for trying!

Bob

P.S. Hanging out here is getting hazardous for my bank account
 
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BB, split windows ? you mean one of those ol' plastic GM cars, that's sorta like polishin a turd

good luck with the pre-64
 
Posts: 1605 | Location: Wa. State | Registered: 19 November 2001Reply With Quote
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You got it Jimmy! I am also a car-nut of sorts, although I don't own any of GM's "plastic fantastics", I do appreciate their colector value and repect their admirer's verve. Myself, I prefer 68-72 SS Chevelle's and the contemporary Mopar offerings.

Thanks for your input, really!

--Bob
 
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There is a transition 06 in a local sporting goods store for $600 CDN. For love nor money I can't talk anyone into buying the darn thing. The bolt handle is on the wrong side for my tastes and the other, future, hunter in the family has yet to let me know what hand he prefers to do things with. So there she sits.

Chuck
 
Posts: 2659 | Location: Southwestern Alberta | Registered: 08 March 2003Reply With Quote
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The old pre-64 Model 70s are better-made, better-built, and much higher-quality rifles than anything you can purchase today new and off-the-shelf. With today's excllent ammunition and components, they'll also shoot very, very well indeed, and feed better than any other production rifle that's ever been produced.





I recently acquired a nice 30/06 Remington Model 30 for $400 & mentioned to my shooting buddy (he doesn't hunt much) that it's curious to me how they can go so cheaply now days when they're probably 10x better than ANY of the factory crap being made currently...he then said his Winchester 30/06, some black rifle he got for about the same money, it's push-feed with a plastic stock but isn't a Win70 (I'm not quite sure what the model is...) was just as good...I just kind of said "humpf" and then bit my lip...

Anybody care to chime in with me on that sentiment?

By the way, $650 for what you describe would seem to be a veritable steal based on current pricing observed at several gun shows and on the internet...not that I've been looking closely as I'm not really in the market.

Reed
 
Posts: 649 | Location: Iowa | Registered: 29 August 2001Reply With Quote
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Somebody up there ain't looking and thinking!
 
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I'd be interested in that transition, if it were state-side and is decent shape. It would go with my 375 transition.

-Steve
 
Posts: 2781 | Location: Hillsboro, Or-Y-Gun (Oregon), U.S.A. | Registered: 22 June 2000Reply With Quote
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I have a lot of these, done up as I recommend and I cover the exposed metal withh vinyl electricians tape in hunting season, remove it in December. My rifles-like me-have lots of hard bush miles on them and are still 90-95 %, you don't actually change anything and the mounts, etc. can be removed and sold if and when you part with the rifle.

I have magnums, standards and fwts done this way, the .30-06 std. is the most generally useful and the speed and ease of handling will amaze you. Try it, you'll like it!
 
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Chuck, I would be interested in the transition '06. You mention that the bolt handle is on
the wrong side. Is it a conversion to a left hand or are you a Southpaw? Regardless, if it is
on the Canadian I am very interested.
 
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