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While attempting to mount a WWG Scout mount on a Marlin 45/70 I drilled a mount hole too deep. I've calculated that .046" of metal remains between the bore and the bottom of the hole. I was aiming for a minimum of .090". Its a #6 size screw located 2.5" ahead of the chamber.

Is there a way to fix this or do I need a new barrel?
 
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at .046 you should be fine.

I made a similar error last week and drilled a rear sight hole all the way into the bore of a .416 Ruger barrel.......and if course it is now aiding tomatoes to grow!


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A pro would have gone all the way through. He knows that by drilling into the bore, he won't waste the whole weekend worrying about whether there is enough material or not. Big Grin

I don't like to get that close but it'll probably be okay. Is it a flat bottomed hole? Maybe you'll luck out and one of the lands will pass under it giving you another .004. Big Grin Make sure that the screw for that hole is a good fit and doesn't bottom out. Keep your eyes open for distorted reflextions in the bore that would indicate potential trouble. Wear shooting glasses and good luck!


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A few years back I took the factory rear sight off a name brand rifle before mounting a large objective scope. Underneath the rear sight base was a bit of powder fouling which had me perplexed…until I noticed the tips of the sight base holes extended into the bore.
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The owner of this particular rifle claimed it had shot quite well since day one Big Grin


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Anyone looking for a .404 Jeff barrel with integral gas vent? I've kept it in the shop for a few years now to remind me to go slower than I want to.

S_ _ t happens!

In your case I don't think you'll have a problem.


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Posts: 2944 | Location: Corrales, NM, USA | Registered: 07 February 2001Reply With Quote
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I might buy that .404 barrel from you. Then i could make a matched pair of rifles. I already have a .30-06 barrel with quarter rib, barrel band sling swivel, barrel band front sight, and a hole clean through to the bore!
 
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It is rather refreshing to learn that I am not the only one to Phuque up.

Thanks to all

Jim


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Thanks to all. I appreciate the candor and good advice.
 
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all you has to do is to sew dat hole up like you did when you sewd up a cracked engine block in da ole dayz. Big Grin



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Originally posted by Marc_Stokeld:
I might buy that .404 barrel from you. Then i could make a matched pair of rifles. I already have a .30-06 barrel with quarter rib, barrel band sling swivel, barrel band front sight, and a hole clean through to the bore!


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My boss brought his brother's TC Hawken barrel into the shop about 25 years ago to have one of the tool makers drill and tap it for a Weaver rail.
After he got it together I took some 6-32 set screws and nuts and attached them to the bottom barrel flat with Eastman 910 (Super Glue). They were placed to look like the Weaver rail had been bolted to the barrel with all 4 screws going through the barrel.
Needless to say his brother was pissed when he got the barrel back. We never go the honor of working on his rifles again.
 
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just for the hell of it, what do you say to a customer in a situation like this?
 
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well you could always fill it up with JB weld, thats how westpac fixes um Cool


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just for the hell of it, what do you say to a customer in a situation like this?


Wouldn't be a whole lot to say. You might try the truth like, "Ya know, I think that this gun of yours would perform a whole lot better with a new barrel. How would you like to test drive a new barrel for free? The only catch is that you document the load data and performance. May I keep the old barrel, I would like to test some new porting theories and this here barrel or yours would be just the ticket." Big Grin


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Westpac is right.

You call brownells order the guy a new bbl and install it for free.

You are most likely out around $200 in cash and your time.

It could be a lot worse. I think srewing up a nice wood stock would be more problematic.


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I will not put in print what I said that after I drilled a hole through the barrel. Especially since it was for a second (unecessary) hold down screw under the rear sight in the quarter rib.

All I could do was order another barrel, front sight, and sling swivel and start all over.

Funny thing is, the only other barrel I had to scrap was 4 years earlier and for the same guy! He is a stockmaker and past president of the Guild.

FWIW-you can stick a screw in the hole and shoot it until the rfiling is burned out if it is your own barrel.
 
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Originally posted by Westpac:
A pro would have gone all the way through. He knows that by drilling into the bore, he won't waste the whole weekend worrying about whether there is enough material or not. Big Grin



I drilled all the way into the chamber, once, 10 years ago on a $50 1938 Turk, and it still bothers me.



direwolf,
Don't worry, I drilled all the way through, and only the really hot ammo will blow a hole in the brass up a 6-48 hole.
The wimpy surplus shoots just fine.
I can see a tiny bump in the brass where the hole did not support it.
 
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thanks for the responsesSmiler

I've been in similar situations not gun related, I'd describe them as "high pucker factor".

when staring intensely at the damage doesn't make it go away, me being me, my first thought is to lie MAO.

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I feel alot better now thanks to all of you.
 
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