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Buehler safety question
07 July 2006, 08:33
Wildlife ArtistBuehler safety question
Hello
I need some help. I have just installed a new original low scope Buehler safety on a Argentine 1909 rifle. It went together just fine and functions but it is very stiff to engage to the safe position (takes two fingers and pulling up hard) and slightly harder to go from safe position to fire and it makes a loud click.
Can anyone please advise me on how to make it operate smoother and quieter.
Thanks ahead of time for your help
Steve
07 July 2006, 18:20
Jim KobeWould someone post a picture of one of the PM lever safeties I do? I replied to this on another site and am still trying to get updated on how to post a picture here. Much appreciated the help in advance.
Jim
Jim Kobe
10841 Oxborough Ave So
Bloomington MN 55437
952.884.6031
Professional member American Custom Gunmakers Guild
07 July 2006, 18:30
Rusty Marlinjim, shoot me an e-mail with a pic and I'll get it up here for you.
Rusty
07 July 2006, 18:45
DuaneinNDYou need to increase the angle on the bevel you cut on the top of the cocking piece just a tiny bit more.
07 July 2006, 18:46
vapodogquote:
Originally posted by Jim Kobe:
Would someone post a picture of one of the PM lever safeties I do?
Jim
This one on an unaltered VZ-24...the rest of the bolt is all original.....
I'll send the bill for posting by PM!!!!

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I forget how the Buehler looks, but on an original 98 and the low scope FN safeties, the flat leading edge of the cocking piece should rest upon the flat rear edge of the safety, when engaged. The bevel should be on the safety, where it leads onto the flat rear edge. This bevel cams the cocking piece rearwards as you engage the safety. The exact angle can be modified for ease of operation.
If you bevel the cocking piece, you are tinkering with the basic design of the safety mechanism. (flat surface against flat surface, when engaged)
In order to operate any such safety quietly, apply forward (or rearward) pressure with your thumb as you engage or disengage it.
Cock the bolt and look at where the leading edge of the ramp portion of the safety contacts the cocking piece. You need to re-angle that ramp for a more gradual retraction of the cocking piece. Make the modification to the safety, NOT the cocking piece. Also, put a little grease on the ramp to reduce the friction.
08 July 2006, 05:21
Wildlife ArtistThanks to everybody for your help.
I did not want to grind on the coking piece at all because if I messed up I could not find a original cocking piece to replace it.
Its a swing up and down safty like the ones used on some FN mausers. I have not figured out why FN put them on the left side.
FN put the safety on the left because that is where the thumb lies for most right-handed shooters. It also mimmicks the operation of the original mauser design, so there is nothing new to learn.
Also when the safety is on the right there is more up and down play on the bolt handle with the safety on and bolt locked. With the right side safety the bolt handle could be up a few degrees when the safety is moved to the fire position and when fired some of the springs energy is required to close the bolt completely.
The problem with the safety on the left is that it is hard to lower it quietly without taking your hand completely off the grip.
10 July 2006, 06:54
teele1another Buehler safety question if I may,
Will a Buehler safety for a model 98 fit a 48 Yugo??? I can not get it to work and don't want to grind away good metal if it will not work in the first place. Thanks to all
Shoot Strait teele1
if you're gonna do it, do it right the first time
10 July 2006, 07:55
craigsterquote:
Originally posted by teele1:
another Buehler safety question if I may,
Will a Buehler safety for a model 98 fit a 48 Yugo??? I can not get it to work and don't want to grind away good metal if it will not work in the first place. Thanks to all
Shoot Strait teele1
I have a Yugo 48 with a Buehler 98 safety that was gunsmith installed, it works fine.
10 July 2006, 16:08
jeffeossobeuhlers are tough to do SOMETIMES if the spring is heavy on the firing pin. Try putting some flitz, silverpolish, or my new favorite "mother's billet polish" (at most autoparts stores) and lap it in.
jeffe