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02 July 2003, 06:56
TXPO
Those Damn 'Safetys' On The New Marlins
I just hate the safety on my Guide Gun.....it's the first lever action that I have owned that has one. Is there a way to take it out or disable it and then cover the unsightly hole? I'm sure that just about everyone that has owned a 'less safe' real lever action would agree that the new safetys are a real nuisance.

Please don't drill me about lawyers and such by removing it. [Roll Eyes]
02 July 2003, 07:29
hart
I sure can sympathize with you. When I take my Guide Gun to the range, I am pulling the trigger while the safety is on, too often, way more than any of my other rifles. Also when I am working the safety, I have to pause and think, is the safety on with the button sticking out this side or is it that side (may be an age thing).
Some one made a great suggestion a while back, install an "O" ring over the groove in the safety to prevent its use. Can easily be removed if needed.

Hart
02 July 2003, 07:31
Bill M
TXPO,

I think someone did make a safety "replacement" that looked like slotted screwheads when installed, but I am not sure where/if it is still available.

(Edited to add) Here it is:
http://www.longhunt.com/action_work/action_work.shtml

My brother's Marlin has that safety, and it has cost him a couple deer. He leaves in the "Fire" position all the time now....

Regards and good luck,

Bill

[ 07-01-2003, 22:35: Message edited by: Bill M ]
02 July 2003, 08:45
TXPO
Thanks Bill M!!!

I just ordered one!

Now...I haven't really looked at the safety setup closely but can someone tell me the easiest way to take it out? I'm sure ( I hope anyway) the replacement 'plug' will have some directions.

[ 07-02-2003, 00:04: Message edited by: TXPO ]
02 July 2003, 09:27
Ken Cline
Or, you can just tighten the little set screw to prevent the safety from moving to the "ON" position.
02 July 2003, 09:35
Bill M
TXPO,

You are very welcome, glad to help.

Can't help with removal/installation, hopefully the instructions will have the details that you need. I will try to check out my NRA firearms disassembly book tonight, if they have the procedure I'll pass it along.

Bill
02 July 2003, 11:29
Dave James
TXPO, pop over to the Marlin chat site those boys over there can give you all the break down on the marlins
02 July 2003, 12:38
Erik Fryman
What Ken said. I did this on my 1895M and it works perfectly. No parts or pieces to buy.
02 July 2003, 12:44
TXPO
Ken & Eric,

One of the reasons I want to get rid of it is because it is unsightly! [Mad] Safetys do not belong on lever guns. [Confused]

Thanks for everything guys....I'll check with the Marlin chat room boys when I get back from Africa. I doubt I will get the new part for it before I leave on the 5th.

[ 07-02-2003, 03:45: Message edited by: TXPO ]
02 July 2003, 12:53
N E 450 No2
TXPO
If you cannot get that part in time just put a little loc-tite on it. In the off safe position of course. [Big Grin] That way it does not accidently get knocked on. Works on Winchesters too.
03 July 2003, 02:48
TXPO
N E 450 No2,

I'm not taking it with me....I'll have my .375 and a .300 WM....although, I sure wish that I had that guide gun in BC a month ago when going after a black bear in the thick stuff....oh HOW I wanted that Guide Gun!!!
[Eek!]
03 July 2003, 03:21
BECoole
One has to wonder why they didn't go to a transfer bar safety mechanism like Ruger or the old Iver Johnsons. Those button safeties are too ugly!
03 July 2003, 08:40
<Pfeifer>
Saw an earlier 1970's vintage non-crossbolt safety 1895 Marlin in .45-70 for sale this morning (just like mine!). It has an Ashley Outdoors ghost ring sight and original wood/black plastic buttplate, 12-groove micro-groove barrel. This one has the "fat" forend wood on it as well. Missing Marlin "bulls-eye" from stock - fell out as is common.

Call 208-321-1288 Shooting World in Boise, ID if interested.

Jeff Pfeifer
03 July 2003, 08:58
N E 450 No2
TXPO
Your right about the Guide Gun, when it is in its niche it is hard to beat [Wink] ....except with a Double. [Big Grin]

Oh, and if I havent already told you, that is a nice Bear. [Cool] [Smile]

[ 07-03-2003, 00:00: Message edited by: N E 450 No2 ]
03 July 2003, 16:58
TXPO
Thanks N E 450 No2,

It's my first bear, I have wanted one since I was a kid, but it certainly won't be my last!
03 July 2003, 20:34
Rusty Gunn
quote:
Originally posted by TXPO:
Safetys do not belong on lever guns. [Confused]

Just so you know, the Marlin GG you own has four safeties!
Hammer half-cock.
Rear firing pin drops down when action is open.
Cross bolt safety (the 'ugly' one).
Trigger block is engaged when lever is lowered.

Another cure is to install a quarter inch O-ring, or C-clip on the CBS button grove. ~~~Suluuq
06 July 2003, 02:47
Wstrnhuntr
quote:
Originally posted by Rusty Gunn:
Just so you know, the Marlin GG you own has four safeties!
Hammer half-cock.
Rear firing pin drops down when action is open.
Cross bolt safety (the 'ugly' one).
Trigger block is engaged when lever is lowered.

[/QB]

Yup! And still none of them are a better saftey than common sense and an empty chamber. [Wink]