Brownells sells jigs for milling Mauser shrouds to accept a 2 position side swing safety. Does anybody have plans, photos, etc. of of one, or something similar? Seems like something I might be interested in trying to make, but I can't visualize the setup.

its a plate, with hole for the male thread to come through and rcessed to allow the shroud to come in about .075 or .100 (haven't looked at mine in awhile) ..

I'll look at mine and revise later

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Originally posted by WoodHunter:
After installing a few, my thinking is it is "a bunch of work for just two positions" and now prefer to just buy a three position safety and install.

Funny, my view is the polar opposite. I used to feel that a three postion was the ONLY safety to install. The reality is I am asked to install far more Gentry and Dakotas than I am the better models. Two big issues with these lesser brands is that the availability is VERY spotty as is QC. These days I find myself installing far more of the Wisner 2 position kits than ever.

The only feature of the brownell's jig is it has locating surfaces on the jig so you have a reference with edge finding or indicating.
I made mine and will one day machine in the reference surfaces.

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Originally posted by WoodHunter:

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Originally posted by z1r:
Two big issues with these lesser brands is that the availability is VERY spotty as is QC. These days I find myself installing far more of the Wisner 2 position kits than ever.

Lesser brand 3 positions, I don't use them. You get what you pay for.

Agreed, but others do and pay ME to install them. I cannot ALWAYS dictate what component a customer chooses. I will refuse to install any more Gentry safeties, just too poor a track record.

That said, there are a good many people out there who find a well constructed two position model 70 style safety like teh Wisner to be preferable to a poorly funtioning 3 position variant and don't find that the ability to cycle the bolt with the FP blocked warrants the additional expense of buying a "premium" unit.

If they are happy, so am I.

These are the ones I do and are available.

Jim

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Originally posted by WoodHunter:
Don't know if it is copyrighted or patented, though. Might step on the designers toes if you copy one. The instructions should reveal this.

Good point, let me know... I'm not looking to violate any patents or go into production with an exact copy, just looking for ideas that could lead to me engineering my own solution for personal use. A photo of the setup would help. Anyone who has machined their own jig is encourage to post photos, instructions, etc. for the DIY crowd. Thanks.

Here's the jig is use. Pics not in order though.
Don

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Originally posted by WoodHunter:
Unless you had one in your hand to measure, it would be somewhat difficult to make.

The Chapman jig comes with 5 pages of instructions and critical dimensions, I think the instructions alone are worth the cost of the total package.

Mine is shown below.

Well you could tell the instructions were written by a gunsmith. I couldn't make heads or tails of it and the information is not linear as in you need to read page one then skip to page five then back to two then to three etc. His instructions suck. They are complete just jumbled

Thanks Don! That's exactly what I was looking for.

One comment or two I would like to make, The jig pictured is about like the one I use although a bet different in that I mae it myself but it works.

On point number two, the Wisner kit is Sooo much superior to the Chapman in the geometry department. It is also hardened, color cased and has the serrations already in the lever. Not much more cost either. Go with the wisner, you won't look back.

Kobe
Good to know.
I cheeped out on the chapman kit and paid the price. Should have went with the Wisner.
Oh well I have one more rifle to install a wing safety on. You know which one i'll be buying.

Agreed I like Jim Wisners kit better for the average install. But I like to modify the installation sort of between Jim's and Glen's methods. Glen's are a little most versital for customizing and you can even mill a flat in the wing and install it just like Jim's. Just more work.

Kerry the issue with Glen's instructions is he gives several different methods kind on all mixed together. But if you give him a call he will let you know wantever you ask. Great guy to deal with.
Don