I'm doing a repair to a Ruger RSM stock and need a new brass insert. Unfortunately, these are not available individually from Ruger nor anyone else.

I've attached three pictures via the link below that includes a dimensioned drawing and two 3D views. I did an online design with emachineshop and got a quote from them - egads!!!!!

Google Folder with Pics

Please let me know if anyone is interested and how much it would be.

Volquartsen sells brass escutcheons like this:

Perhaps they have one you can use.

George

You might try the small component part manufacturers. Ruger probably bought that insert from one of them. Your drawing appears to be that of a stock item.

Try PIC Design, Winfred M Berg (WMBerg), Small Parts, Stock Drive Products - SDP, PEM fasteners,
SPS, Seastrom and many others.

I looked thru some of those websites and catalogs, couldn't find anything.

Maybe Midway does have it, no picture though. I'll call Ruger again Monday. Last time I spoke with them they were not helpful.

http://www.midwayusa.com/produ...r-m77-mark-ii-magnum

You carry 4 decimal places in your drawing

What are your tolerances?

The closer you hold a toolmaker to those numbers the higher the price

Did you consider Brownells?


http://www.brownells.com/gunsm...-screws-prod388.aspx

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Originally posted by Mike Brooks:
Did you consider Brownells?


http://www.brownells.com/gunsm...-screws-prod388.aspx

I just ordered a Ruger part from them that I think is the right one. Picture looks correct, but it says it's in blue (pic is brass and factory part is brass). We'll see!

Have you contacted KCSTOTT on this forum?

Yeah how many you want??

Just one. I'll know soon whether the part I ordered will work. I think I have 50/50 chance. The picture looked correct on the Brownells' website, but it said it was blued steel, which won't work.

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Originally posted by ted thorn:
You carry 4 decimal places in your drawing.

The closer you hold a toolmaker to those numbers the higher the price

Absolutely... If you want one special part made to plus or minus a few ten thousandths you are going to pay through the nose.

What is this used for? If this is a simple screw escutcheon inserted into the wood you should be able to find a stock part that is close and open it up or turn it down. I have a hobbyist lathe and this would be a very simple part to make, but not to those tolerances!

Yeah, I'd echo the previous comment. What is it used for ? I've owned two RMSs and never run across anything that looked like your photo.
If it has an interior thread, I suppose it could be part of the stock crossbolting system.
Please tell us more.

Two decimal places are fine. I was just representing the fractional measurements I took in 64th inch measurements.

The interior is not threaded. Attached is a picture of where it is used. There are two at the fore end of the stock. Bolts are placed thru them and screwed into the barrel.

The screw/brass nut on Brownells appear to be for revolver grips and are about half the size of the brass insert on my RSM when I compare them to one my revolvers that has them... Hopefully the size is deceiving.

Here's the part I ordered:

http://www.brownells.com/rifle...2.aspx?sku=780000145


What sucks is that I was cleaning up the hole today and the damn run-out on my drill press (when drilling out the remnants of the bolt) caused a larger hole. Now instead of .44" diameter hole, I had to go all the way to .55" to clean it up. I plan to fill with black epoxy and then drill out for the escutcheon. It will look like ebony .055" ring around it.

And for those that are wondering how it got like this, I had the rifle epoxy bedded and a trigger job in 2007 by a gunsmith versus doing myself (which I normally do). Anyway, I was taking the rifle apart to do some stock repairs (fill some nicks, scratches, etc) before trying to sell it. Anyway. I couldn't get one of the front bolts out. It would turn, but not move upwards. Well, what I didn't know at the time is that the gunsmith had broken the bolt in the rifle barrel so instead of fixing that he just expoyed the broken bolt into the stock! And there I was wondering why it wouldn'y come out. Well, back to my crap ass drill press and bits, I tried to drill it out and ended up buggering up the brass escutcheon. Had I known the bolt was broken off, I probably could have drilled thru the epoxy on the inside of the stock, heated up the epoxy and pushed the bolt out that way. Now, I still need to get the broken bolt in the rifle barrel out. I'm not going to try this myself. Going to check with a gunsmith. Also, I had a broken bolt stuck in a cylinder head that last that I could not get out and had to take it to San Antonio (I live in Austin) to a machine shop that had EDM equipment because evidently Austin is in the stone age when it comes to machine shops. Shoot, I have to take the cylinder head of my UTV to a shop in Llano because there are no high precision small engine machine shops in the Austin metro area - all the cycle shops and racer go to the same place in Llano.

Now, can someone recommend a small, affordable drill press or mill?

Most of the cheaper drill presses
I've seen with bad runout were caused
by a cheap chuck.
See if you can borrow a better chuck
before you scrap out the one you have.

Well if you need only one $15 shipped.

Austin Hunter,
If you will email The drawings and 3D graphics to Howard Blount my General Manager at Charles A. Templeton machine, Inc., I will see what we can do. Please indicate in the email that I told you to contact him.
hrb@catmachinc.com

Regards!

Thanks for the help everyone.

KCSTOTT is making two different versions for me, one the original size and one to completely fill the larger hole.

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Originally posted by kcstott:
Well if you need only one $15 shipped.

I can't get a cup of coffee in my shop for $15

Anyone who has the skill to operate a lathe can make this part for you in less than 1/2 hour. The outer circumference can easily be lightly knurled, rather than the broached grooves, and serve the same purpose.

You are exactly right. Just about a half hour. Problem is that makes this one part cost $40 from a shop like I work from

Fully agree, But my shop is Mine, I sorta retired out of toolmaking and do this stuff on my own time. This is a quick low tolerance part that will take longer for the machine to warm up then make.
But yeah the shops that I use to work in??? $40?? nope. They wouldn't even pull a guy off a job unless you dropped $150 for a small part like this.

Just buy some brass tubing with the proper OD.
Drill it out and cut a countersink in it for the screw. Rocket science this a'int.

Found on:

https://www.volquartsen.com/ta...nents,13-ruger-10-22

quote:

Originally posted by metalbeater:
Just buy some brass tubing with the proper OD.
Drill it out and cut a countersink in it for the screw. Rocket science this a'int.

Wasn't rocket science figuring out that you = Larry Root.