Fellow called me today asking if I knew where he could get sling swivels and bases like the original pre-64 model 70 Super Grade. I don't know what he's talking about and happen to have a picture or description of these? I'd like to know if there's anything like them available.

Thanks

Break out your Brownell's catalog and look at the ones from Talley.....real nice stuff!!!!

Dakota also makes them. Look here

Hell, why didn't he just say that? I've seen/used those before but the way he talked there was something magical about the "Super Grade" swivels.

Thanks

John,
Jim Wisner sells copy's of the originals. One difference is in the shape. Those that vapodog posted are much smaller and will not fit in a supergrade stock.

Chic, other than the patience you have harped on me about before, is there any trick to inletting these to a new stock? It is the next step in my current project.

Thanks in advance.

larrys,
Harp, me??? you jest, lol. The easiest way is to set them into your patter and have the duplicator cut it. If that is not an option, if you have a straight sided base, and a mill it can be done easily with a cutter and the stock mounted in a vise.

If those options are not available. Then line the base up where you want it precisely and file a flat so the base will sit on it. Make sure you do not file beyond the outside of the perimeter of the base, just enough to get a platform to get started. Put the stock in a vise and make sure the base is on the centerline and square to the world. I then often use some surgical tubing to secure it and drill the front and rear holes for a reference. Then with the screws partially in, I scribe the outside edge (it has a draft) and start to inlet with chisels. use Prussian blue or inletting black to show you where you are touching and gradually work your way down to flush.

And have some patience.

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Originally posted by Toomany Tools:
Hell, why didn't he just say that? I've seen/used those before but the way he talked there was something magical about the "Super Grade" swivels.

Thanks

Well, I woudn't say they're magical, but they are the only ones to my knowledge that prohibit the sling swivel from pivoting back into the stock and marring up a potentially nice piece of walnut.
Talley's have that problem, but I guess most folks don't seem to care too much about it, since most rifles at the guild show will have Talleys on them.

Personally, I'm more fond of the original Winchester Stock Swivel Base if the the screws heads were trimmed down a little. The screws are just a bit large for no bigger than the base is. Other than that, they're the most functional ones out there that have a touch of class too.

The bases of the M70 Super Grade bases are 1/2 inch wide. and use the special detachable loops that Winchester made for them.
The rear bases uses a special wood screw and the front uses a special machine screw and nut.

We make reproduction bases only. Used sets of loops are running over $75.00 now on Ebay

We also offer reproduction bases like Winchester did after 1964 that are cut down on the side for the quick detachable Mikes swivels and their copies.

Jim Wisner
www.wisnersinc.com

Chic, as always, thanks!

Never cared much for the factory supergrade QD swivels because they require scooping out the wood on both sides of the bases.