A friend has a young son, who absolutely adores shooting.

He is always trying to improve both himself, and the guns they have.

His father suggested that he now needs something REALLY accurate, to keep him busy.

So I called him over, and told him I will build him a bench rest gun.

A rifle that probably has more inherent accuracy than he could possible shoot.

Both him and his father laughed.

Now we have no quarantine, I suggested they come over together, and I will build the rifle with their help.

I got a Hall action, with a small bolt face, and got one of Hart heavy stainless match barrels, and a Jewel trigger.

They were with me in the workshop as I threaded and chambered the barrel - I used a reamer made by Dan Green, in 222 Remington with a .244 neck.

I bedded the finished rifle, and left it for 2 days to settle.

Yesterday they came over to get it.

I selected 100 cases, weighed to the exact weight.

Got him a Sinclair neck turning tool, and showed him how to turn the necks down to the right thickness.

I turned just 3 cases, to try in the rifle, as he installed a scope on it.

Everything was ready, and I loaded the three cases with 24 grains of W 748, and Brawand 52 grain match bullets.

We got the bullets to hit the point of aim, and loaded the cases again.

Using Redding neck dies with a 0.240 button in it.

I fired the three shots, ending in a group of 0.083"!

We loaded these again, and the son shot a group, good, but nowhere near this.

We all laughed, and his father saying "Saeed was right! That rifle shoots better than you can. Now go and practice"

They took the rifle and gone

He borrowed a set of neck turning tools, he is going to turn all his cases, and bring back - before he can shoot the rifle!

A condition he was very happy to accept.

Saeed,
Very generous of you to help set up a young man with a new and very accurate rifle. I'm not surprised that you did this. You are a good man with a good heart. I'm sure this young man will never forget your kindness and will probably be a keen shooter for all his life.

Should you discover components you have no better use for that would make a DG rifle and are keen for another project please know I am willing to be the humble recipient of another act of generosity. Only condition is it would need to be left handed but I would even accept something based on a Blaser

Haha, just joking Saeed. Hope you're keeping safe and well. Your story warmed my heart on another boring Covid Lockdown day.

Nice move Saeed! That was a very kind act + you have definitely enrolled another youth into the shooting fraternity.

when i saw the title of the thread i thought it was gonna be about a hooker. now i can't decide if i'm happy or disappointed. oh well. such is life. lucky kid!

Saeed, thanks for promoting our hobby. That young man has some fine mentors.

Very nice of you to do that.

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Originally posted by john c.:
when i saw the title of the thread i thought it was gonna be about a hooker. now i can't decide if i'm happy or disappointed. oh well. such is life. lucky kid!

Funny enough, I have never been with a hooker!

Never had any problems finding a girl friend in my younger days!

Apparently I am a funny man, as they always kept saying “you are funny!”

Nice thing to do Saeed. Hey do a test with a super accurate rifle such as the one you just mentioned. Sort to batches of cases. Sort one by weight and the other by volume. I'm sure you'll find the ones by volume will shrink the group.

Great thing to do!

I have built rifles for all my nephews, that are old enough and a few neighborhood kids.

That sure is a great way to get them started!

Good on you Sir!

Nothing feels better then getting a kid into shooting. Great job Saeed and Jtex!!

Great story.

That kid is hooked!

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Originally posted by vzerone:
Nice thing to do Saeed. Hey do a test with a super accurate rifle such as the one you just mentioned. Sort to batches of cases. Sort one by weight and the other by volume. I'm sure you'll find the ones by volume will shrink the group.

WOW!! YOU are giving Saeed advice on ANYTHING related to shooting? ??? thats like the pope giving altar boys advice on avoiding sexual predators! like rosie giving advice on dieting. like pelosie giving schumer advice on being honest. like ........somebody help me out here. i'm still too stunned.

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Originally posted by john c.:

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Originally posted by vzerone:
Nice thing to do Saeed. Hey do a test with a super accurate rifle such as the one you just mentioned. Sort to batches of cases. Sort one by weight and the other by volume. I'm sure you'll find the ones by volume will shrink the group.

WOW!! YOU are giving Saeed advice on ANYTHING related to shooting? ??? thats like the pope giving altar boys advice on avoiding sexual predators! like rosie giving advice on dieting. like pelosie giving schumer advice on being honest. like ........somebody help me out here. i'm still too stunned.

Hey John, even the greatest minds can learn something too! I know some serious benchrest shooters that know all the tricks, such as weighing the cases, that shrunk their groups going by volume measurements. Too much hassle for me.

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Originally posted by vzerone:

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Originally posted by john c.:

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Originally posted by vzerone:
Nice thing to do Saeed. Hey do a test with a super accurate rifle such as the one you just mentioned. Sort to batches of cases. Sort one by weight and the other by volume. I'm sure you'll find the ones by volume will shrink the group.

WOW!! YOU are giving Saeed advice on ANYTHING related to shooting? ??? thats like the pope giving altar boys advice on avoiding sexual predators! like rosie giving advice on dieting. like pelosie giving schumer advice on being honest. like ........somebody help me out here. i'm still too stunned.

Hey John, even the greatest minds can learn something too! I know some serious benchrest shooters that know all the tricks, such as weighing the cases, that shrunk their groups going by volume measurements. Too much hassle for me.

You are right, one can never stop learning.

But, I really cannot see the relevant of trying to improve on a rifle that shoots in the zeros.

I have tried sorting brass by case capacity in the past, and found it to be a bit tedious, and has no relevance to what I was trying to do.

We buy or brass in bulk, and go through every single one to sort them out.

We do find some that are basically rejects, and cannot be used for anything.

These include cracks and other faulty manufacturing, which are obvious by just looking at them.

We size all of the, cut them to proper length, debur the flash hole, uniform the primer pockets, and weigh them.

Generally we segregate them by weight, depending on cartridge.

These we store for when required.

We go through the weighing process again, if required, for any specific purpose.

Like in this case, because the rifle is an accurate rifle, and we would like to eliminate all variations

Our process seems to work, as the results are just what we had hoped for.

Every person needs a mentor.

That boy may not realize it yet but he will think of you for the rest of his life, which will in turn compel him to share his knowledge and be a mentor later in life.

Well done sir!

Saeed, That is wonderful! You are enhancing that boys character. Brian

Somehow, I knew it would be a .222 Rem.

The 222 Remington was my first center fire rifle.

My granddad gave me one, it was a Sako, and I still have it.

To me, it is a classic.

I love the triple deuce, and man does that one shoot, Cool helping a kid, You are a gentleman and a scholer Saeed..

He managed to turn the necks of all his brass, and returned my neck turning tools.

His father was laughing, as he said his son never returns HIS tools when he borrows hem until he asks for them back!

Returning another man's tools in perfect condition is another important life lesson.

Well done Saeed,

I remember my first rifle. All the uncles, grandpaw, brothers and cousins got a deer rifle made by the local gunsmith. Mine was a model 1891 Argy 7.65 with a nice walnut stock, a real hammer on my skinny upper arm and shoulder that turned purple and blue. A heavy gun to carry as well. Shot 2.5-3 inch groups at 100 yards with a peep sight (I think). I believe it was 1969 or 1970-ish.