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Has anyone has a custom bolt release made for the Montana 1999 action. Just curious to see a few. | ||
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Hello, I agree that bolt release does not look right. I could use some ideas as well. John | |||
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I am actually okay with the current release, and would prefer it to not be any larger, just maybe some stylish gripping, scrol, or checkering. | |||
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Great Question. Worst feature of an otherwise wonderful action. Fakey M98 ejector box. To my mind, the less obtrusive they could have made the release, the better (think M70 and Rem700), no real practical reason to have it so prominant. Someone must have milled one off and come up with a better system....I'd have it done if it were at all practical. Jay Kolbe | |||
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It was just an affordable way to do a Sako style. If I were determined to improve it I would find one from an L61R and try to retro fit it. Much better looking, IMO. "Experience" is the only class you take where the exam comes before the lesson. | |||
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I'm going to try to stay out of the part of this discussion dealing with pure personal preferences and taste. I will say this in the context of the comment above, though: One of the areas in which the M1999 is a definite improvement over the Winchester M70 is in gas handling. In addition to features such as Mauser size gas release ports in the bolt and an additional gas release port in the receiver ring, the most important feature added to the M1999 in this respect, is a flange on the bolt shroud. As shown during the destructive tests done early in the development of the M1999, this flange effectively directs gas headed down the left raceway away from the shooters eye and face. Have you ever wondered why the M70 does not sport this much needed feature?? Well, the M70 bolt stop is in the way, and thus the safety feature was not added. So much for preferring M70 style bolt stops, you may think them less obtrusive, but safety wise, they are sub-optimal. - mike ********************* The rifle is a noble weapon... It entices its bearer into primeval forests, into mountains and deserts untenanted by man. - Horace Kephart | |||
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I guess its about taste...I luv the 1999 bolt release Mike Legistine actu quod scripsi? Never under estimate the internet community's ability to reply to your post with their personal rant about their tangentially related, single occurrence issue.  What I have learned on AR, since 2001: 1. The proper answer to: Where is the best place in town to get a steak dinner? is…You should go to Mel's Diner and get the fried chicken. 2. Big game animals can tell the difference between .015 of an inch in diameter, 15 grains of bullet weight, and 150 fps. 3. There is a difference in the performance of two identical projectiles launched at the same velocity if they came from different cartridges. 4. While a double rifle is the perfect DGR, every 375HH bolt gun needs to be modified to carry at least 5 down. 5. While a floor plate and detachable box magazine both use a mechanical latch, only the floor plate latch is reliable. Disregard the fact that every modern military rifle uses a detachable box magazine. 6. The Remington 700 is unreliable regardless of the fact it is the basis of the USMC M40 sniper rifle for 40+ years with no changes to the receiver or extractor and is the choice of more military and law enforcement sniper units than any other rifle. 7. PF actions are not suitable for a DGR and it is irrelevant that the M1, M14, M16, & AK47 which were designed for hunting men that can shoot back are all PF actions. 8. 95 deg F in Africa is different than 95 deg F in TX or CA and that is why you must worry about ammunition temperature in Africa (even though most safaris take place in winter) but not in TX or in CA. 9. The size of a ding in a gun's finish doesn't matter, what matters is whether it’s a safe ding or not. 10. 1 in a row is a trend, 2 in a row is statistically significant, and 3 in a row is an irrefutable fact. 11. Never buy a WSM or RCM cartridge for a safari rifle or your go to rifle in the USA because if they lose your ammo you can't find replacement ammo but don't worry 280 Rem, 338-06, 35 Whelen, and all Weatherby cartridges abound in Africa and back country stores. 12. A well hit animal can run 75 yds. in the open and suddenly drop with no initial blood trail, but the one I shot from 200 yds. away that ran 10 yds. and disappeared into a thicket and was not found was lost because the bullet penciled thru. I am 100% certain of this even though I have no physical evidence. 13. A 300 Win Mag is a 500 yard elk cartridge but a 308 Win is not a 300 yard elk cartridge even though the same bullet is travelling at the same velocity at those respective distances. | |||
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Absolutely right, Mike. When we think model 70 and 700, we usually think of making"improvements". Mostly these improvements lead us back to the original 1898 mauser designs. So, to me anyway, the best way to improve all other actions is to throw them away and get a well made commercial mauser! I admit that the model 70 footprint is better, having a small ring diameter. I also like the simple model 70 trigger. What is needed is a model 70 action converted to mauser breeching, and having a mauser bolt stop/ ejector. Then fitted with an Oberndorf type bottom metal. And most of all, it MUST HAVE a decent mauser type gas sheild with 3 position safety. Hmmmm? Didn't we call that the Kimber 89 BGR? Oh, yes, I forgot. The Kimber has a "cast" action. My bad! So how about a CNC milled one? Or even a drop-forged one, that has been properly ground or milled to finish shape? So, the model 70 isn't too bad. Just not.....optimal?  | |||
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I think that my M70 Classic bolt release is a little cheap looking. It's just a little tab of metal that sticks up next to the stock. Frank "I don't know what there is about buffalo that frightens me so.....He looks like he hates you personally. He looks like you owe him money." - Robert Ruark, Horn of the Hunter, 1953 NRA Life, SAF Life, CRPA Life, DRSS lite | |||
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I think I was misunderstood! I just want a new button inside of the release. There was one on here one day and I failed to save the shot. Does anyone have it. So far I love the action and the remarks on the barrels, and I think they has about as good a customer assistance that a company can have. My action and barrel are in the works and I cannot wait! | |||
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Did you ever find the blank or pattern you were looking for? Just curious. Terry -------------------------------------------- Well, other than that Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play? | |||
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I don't remember seeing what you're talking about. But I doubt I catch every thread... Not to wander back off topic, but I think the release on Stuart Satterlee's M70 style action (fifth photo)is the slickest I've laid my eyes upon. | |||
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Christ mho, I know why the 1999/M98's are well designed actions, that's why I buy and use them. I was not advocating for a M70 or 700 bolt stop copy but using them as examples of stops that weren't so prominant and didn't dominate the lines of the action. It seems like one could have easily engineered a bolt release that was much more subtle and elegant without interfering with great gas handling properties of the 1999. Jay Kolbe | |||
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