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If the build quality is better than Landy (not at all difficult), then this will be a home run especially with the BMW’s B57 diesel engine. Probably won't leak either. Worth watching this one develop.
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That looks cool. Hopefully reliability will be vastly improved over Land Rover. I like the idea of a big boxy tough 4wd suv that is not luxed out like the G-Wagen. I think I will wait for a 3-or4-year old low mileage lightly used one to appear. | |||
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This sounds like a great idea. | |||
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We run Cruisers both petrol and diesel, Landy game viewers and one Defender all diesel, a smattering of Hiluxes all diesel, two Chevy Blazers Cummins powered, 4 Suzuki Gypsy's petrol, a batch of Mahindras petrol and diesel three of which are Thars, and a 416 Unimog affectionately known as Das Beast. Of all of these, the Landys are by far the cheapest to operate, the engines are nearly indestructible (but not totally Africa proof), parts are abundant and they are designed for Africa. The two manufacturers we have the most problems with are Suzuki and Mahindra as parts are scarce and expensive. However, the Gypsys and Thars are shittough little machines. Cruizers are great and tough but chow fuel which can be a challenge when the nearest fuel station can be more than 8 hours away. Plan accordingly. A well built Landy Defender clone with an excellent engine like the BMW B57 will be a huge hit in Africa - if it ever gets there. The new Land Rovers are city vehicles for those who dream of off-roading or consider a well groomed gravel road as off-roading. ___________________ Just Remember, We ALL Told You So. | |||
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Being a Land Cruiser fan for many years... I currently runtwo, a standard 100 series v8 for on-road and lighter off-roading and a HZJ-73 SWB diesel. This is the last of the mechanically injected 4.2L diesels. Gets 30 MPG on the road. LR Defenders are a great truck for the mechanics to mess with. Cool looking, but I am undecided on the lastest Defender... to cushy for a real off-roader. ALso have a 1947 Willys Universal (restored) for bird hunting and an F350 7.3L 4X4 for towing and longer trips. The new Landy clone looks awesome, but I wonder if we;ll see it in the USA in any numbers? | |||
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In February and March of this year, Land Rover came to Namibia with the new Defender for an advertising/photo opp run. They spent most of their time driving over the least challenging roads in the country. I think they were scared to break them. https://media.landrover.com/ne...new-defender-namibia Love the 100 series. Great machine. ___________________ Just Remember, We ALL Told You So. | |||
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I have a friend who loves LandRovers. He has an old one, and almost always breaks down when he comes over to my house. One evening he had dinner here, and left. His car broke down just outside our house, he was too scared to ask me for a ride home, so he called for a cap. Next day his wife told me! | |||
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The primary problem with the older diesel Landys is the mechanical fuel pump which can be quite expensive to work on and you better find a Landy wizard that knows them. But once the vehicle has been rewired from front to back, they are somewhat more reliable. The new Landys with an ECU however are simply beyond fixable. I wouldn't touch one under any circumstances. The Brits never were able to grasp the basic concepts of electricity and wiring. Landys have one unique feature over all others - they automatically drain their fluids, sometimes overnight, sometimes over a few months, but generally when you really need transportation. They leak like an old woman. So you don't go anywhere without lots of backup juice, and a prayer book. The only time a Landy is not leaking oil is when there is no oil in her. Unless you see a few drips on the ground, you better immediately check the oil level. ___________________ Just Remember, We ALL Told You So. | |||
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British made plus oil equals leak. Dave | |||
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I am worried that this will be too expensive. The development period has been long (IE expensive), BMW engines will be expensive and by the nature of the vehicle, quantities will be low, which is not a recipe for a competitive purchase price. Other than that, I see a lot of potential. | |||
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