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Originally posted by sproulman:
Very nice to read this.My SM is grandson of late FEZ brought over from pond long ago to usa by Dean Razmussen...He is 3 years old and named Whiskers because his confirmation on mouth is unreal looks like cat
Whiskers..

I hunt ruff grouse/phez with him here in pa ..No phez that gets away from him they are deadly..
RuffGrouse they do not do as good because they are trackers ..

SETTERS are king of grouse dogs because they air scent and lock up.You cannot get close to wild grouse..

I spent a lot of time trying to make SM in grouse dog you cannot because at first scent they put their nose down and start tracking.

If SM can be trained to lock up at first scent of grouse then you have something there for sure ..

SM can swim,retrieve,track,point ..

They are good in home and nice with people...

They do shed hair so I keep him cutback not looking as nice as with hair..

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Originally posted by 465H&H:
There are two Munsterlander breeds. Small and Large. Small Munsterlanders average 21 1/2" shoulder height for males (females average 1" shorter)and all are brown and white. Large munsterlnders average a little larger, around 1 to 1 1/2" more at shoulder and all are black and white. There are a few other differences but the above two are the most noticeable. They have seperate breed registries.


465H&H

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Originally posted by 465H&H:

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Originally posted by 465H&H:
There are two Munsterlander breeds. Small and Large. Small Munsterlanders average 21 1/2" shoulder height for males (females average 1" shorter)and all are brown and white. Large munsterlnders average a little larger, around 1 to 1 1/2" more at shoulder and all are black and white. There are a few other differences but the above two are the most noticeable. They have seperate breed registries.


465H&H

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Originally posted by Andre Mertens:
In 43 years of hunting (with 3 Labradors for small game), I have not met more than 10 of those German pointing spaniels and have always been impressed by the quality of their work. They are still not common but have won quite a following in France since a few years. In Germany, it's another story and these dogs are used successfully on small and big game, even used on blood spoors. When my last Lab Czar died in 2013, I decided to acquire a Münsterländer as my 1st pointing dog. There being only 2 breeders in my country, I put my name on the bottom of a waiting list and hoped (Münsterländers are only sold to hunters, as the result of an agreement between breeders who insist on keeping the hunting instinct intact)... Finally, I got a call that I could get –not choose- a little bitch, which came as a surprising nr. 8 as the echography had only detected a litter of 7 (all of which were pre-sold long ago). Since then, we have developed a complicity and become a hunting team I never had before. She's a true war machine, picking up the scent of game at < 10 meters under cover, before closing in and pointing, steady as a rock! She also comes along on deer stalking where she remains calm and steady (until I shoot, that is...) and follows a blood track very efficiently. She even surprised me lately : we were nearing a Roebuck I just shot and, when the comatose animal shivered, she launched herself and grabbed the dying animal by the throat, jaws clenched, strangling for long minutes, while I fumbled unsuccessfully with the flash of my camera. Only after I was able to take a photo, did she release her prey on my insistence. Field dressing the buck, I found the larynx was crushed. I called the breeder afterwards and he replied that this behaviour was instinctive and as expected... Enough said, here come a few pics of Mabel du Clos des Renards :






Mabel pointing


Mabel, silent but watchful in mirador


Mabel strangles (sorry for pic quality, taken w/o flash in the dark, then numerically brightened)


Mabel and I with latest roebuck, harvested on 05.03.2016

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Originally posted by 465H&H:
I forgot to mention the roan color phase in SMs. My roan SM, Purdey just chewed my ass over that. The breed standards only allow around 1" + or - for breeding approval. The standards strive to limit size variation. The lines Kris is describing have such small differences that it is in my opinion, silly to try to separate them. When a dog near the lower limit, is put up for breeding approval, the Breed Council will usually recommend that the dog be bred to a dog above the breed shoulder height mean. By the way, Purdey would be a small line SM under Kris's criteria. In fact she is too short in shoulder height to be approved for breeding. Another SM of mine is to tall in the shoulder for breeding approval. Does that mean that there is a third line?

465H&H

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Originally posted by 465H&H:

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Originally posted by 465H&H:
I forgot to mention the roan color phase in SMs. My roan SM, Purdey just chewed my ass over that. The breed standards only allow around 1" + or - for breeding approval. The standards strive to limit size variation. The lines Kris is describing have such small differences that it is in my opinion, silly to try to separate them. When a dog near the lower limit, is put up for breeding approval, the Breed Council will usually recommend that the dog be bred to a dog above the breed shoulder height mean. By the way, Purdey would be a small line SM under Kris's criteria. In fact she is too short in shoulder height to be approved for breeding. Another SM of mine is to tall in the shoulder for breeding approval. Does that mean that there is a third line?

465H&H

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Originally posted by sproulman:

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Originally posted by sproulman:
Very nice to read this.My SM is grandson of late FEZ brought over from pond long ago to usa by Dean Razmussen...He is 3 years old and named Whiskers because his confirmation on mouth is unreal looks like cat
Whiskers..

I hunt ruff grouse/phez with him here in pa ..No phez that gets away from him they are deadly..
RuffGrouse they do not do as good because they are trackers ..

SETTERS are king of grouse dogs because they air scent and lock up.You cannot get close to wild grouse..

I spent a lot of time trying to make SM in grouse dog you cannot because at first scent they put their nose down and start tracking.

If SM can be trained to lock up at first scent of grouse then you have something there for sure ..

SM can swim,retrieve,track,point ..

They are good in home and nice with people...

They do shed hair so I keep him cutback not looking as nice as with hair..

There is 2 lines of SM one is different look in face and bigger size.I got line that is SMALL and face looks different than bigger...In heat of fall you want a SMALL dog ..

you can read a LOT of info at our club site on SM..

SMCNA IS NAME ..