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I'm dog shopping. And I am trying to put together a small list of breeds or mixes that are likely to be the dog I want.

I would like a dog that could possibly be a squirrel dog. Also, if I (god forbid) lose a deer, a dog that could help me find it.
Somewhat protective of the house. Gets along well with other dogs. Does not kill cats or chickens. Prefer short hair. And I like big dogs.

I'll probably go to the shelters first and see if I something that is close enough. If not, then I'll think about buying something specific.
I guess right now I'm thinking black mouth cur.


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And I like big dogs.

except for that the beagle might be a good choice.
 
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My labrador does it all. A dog will need to be trained as to what it must guard against and what it must not worry or bother.





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A lab can be trained to hunt anything I had one that was a great natural blood tracker. She did great on wounded deer.

When I was a youngster we had a lab that would chase squirrels ect up the tree and sit at the bottom and bark until you showed up to shoot them. Did that with grouse ect too.

Most of them well bark loudly when someone comes to the house and warn you but are very freindly after wards.
 
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Most of them well bark loudly when someone comes to the house

That's only because they want to lick them to smitherenes! tu2


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Nothing wrong with that.
My Akitas didn't bark. But that was because they didn't issue warnings.

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Most of them well bark loudly when someone comes to the house

That's only because they want to lick them to smitherenes! tu2






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A guy went out coon hunting with his buddy. He was impressed with the guys dogs. He asked what breed should he get to make a good coon dog? The guy told him breed didn't matter but the dog had to have a long curly tail and a great big rectum. If not would not be a coon dog. With this in mind the man went looking for a dog. He saw a curly tailed dog standing by a fence. Got out and looked and it had small rectum. That dogs owner walked up and asked if he could help the man. The man told him he was looking for a coon dog. The owner assured him that was a good coon dog and he would sell it. The man said that is not a good coon dog. Dog's owner said how so? Guy said dog had to have a curly tail--like that dog and large rectum and this dog had small rectum. The owner said I was going to tell you about that. There is a wrench that goes with him and I have him adjusted for squirrels right now. So I guess you need a dog with a curly tail and small rectum.
 
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Ok, would this be *likely* to work. They say it is a blue tick hound/rottweiler cross. He is at the shelter where I volunteer sometimes. About a year old. I'd rather save a dog from the shelter if I can do that and still get what I want.
Any quick test, or traits to look for?






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Might or might not work out. I have a hound hunting buddy that well try any hound out if it is cheap enough. If it works out find others he just takes for a long walk and they never come back.

His favorite saying is never spend more money on a dog then you can afford to shoot.

A good dog is great to have around a bad one is not worth the trouble.
 
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I do understand the attitude.
But I keep dogs. I would be best off hedging my bets to get a useful dog to start with. The dog I get, I will keep.
How does your buddy decide if the dog is going to work out or not?

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Might or might not work out. I have a hound hunting buddy that well try any hound out if it is cheap enough. If it works out find others he just takes for a long walk and they never come back.

His favorite saying is never spend more money on a dog then you can afford to shoot.

A good dog is great to have around a bad one is not worth the trouble.






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You hunt them with the pack and if they run and bark. If they get to the tree and tree well.

It is a start then after a while you drop them on a track by them selfs if they take it and keep on it they are getting better.

If they don't want to get out of the dog box or don't want to hunt.

I decided a long time ago that having a poor dog around isn't worth the trouble. Too many good dogs to pick from, You most likely are going to have a dog for 10 to 15 years is it worth while having one around that isn't doing want you want it do.

Most people make the mistake of getting a dog and keep it no matter what a pain in the Ass it turns out to be. I seen hunters keep a gun shy dog for years feeding it and never hunting it.

I like dogs I have had some very good hunting dogs. I am picky about how and where and who I get my dogs from. I don't pay much for them the most was 75 dollar for a great lab and that was to pay for the shots he had.

The lab a got this July pure breed lots of paper 9 months old. Free the family that had him expecting 3rd kid couldn't keep him. I watch him get pulled around by his ear by a 18 month old girl he just loved it. I watch him at a out door picnic and he didn't go up to any of the tables and beg for food. Four other dogs around he got along with them all.

I reconized that he had a chance of becoming a good bird dog. I took him and so far his training is coming along I think he is going to work out. He is lots of pup yet but he will out grow that. He love birds fetching ect. Has a great hunt pattern to him. Had him in SD for pheasent and he work back and forth between 3 hunters he was born to it.

You give them a fair chance to get with the program but if they don't.

But if he would have been gun shy and would not respond to training ect.

They take a long walk and don't come back.
 
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Get a Labradore Retreiver, everything else is just a dog.


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Think about a Treeing Walker Hound, they look like an overgrown Beagle...I have two of them and they will do everything except retrieve....well, they will retrieve but there is not much left when they bring it to you. They are great around people and prety good guard dogs, but they are hell on cats.


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get a catahoula leopard and you will be happy. these dogs are smart and are easily taught to hunt anything as long as it pleases you. They are not long hair and are great with family.
 
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You hunt them with the pack and if they run and bark. If they get to the tree and tree well.

It is a start then after a while you drop them on a track by them selfs if they take it and keep on it they are getting better.

If they don't want to get out of the dog box or don't want to hunt.

I decided a long time ago that having a poor dog around isn't worth the trouble. Too many good dogs to pick from, You most likely are going to have a dog for 10 to 15 years is it worth while having one around that isn't doing want you want it do.

Most people make the mistake of getting a dog and keep it no matter what a pain in the Ass it turns out to be. I seen hunters keep a gun shy dog for years feeding it and never hunting it.

I like dogs I have had some very good hunting dogs. I am picky about how and where and who I get my dogs from. I don't pay much for them the most was 75 dollar for a great lab and that was to pay for the shots he had.

The lab a got this July pure breed lots of paper 9 months old. Free the family that had him expecting 3rd kid couldn't keep him. I watch him get pulled around by his ear by a 18 month old girl he just loved it. I watch him at a out door picnic and he didn't go up to any of the tables and beg for food. Four other dogs around he got along with them all.

I reconized that he had a chance of becoming a good bird dog. I took him and so far his training is coming along I think he is going to work out. He is lots of pup yet but he will out grow that. He love birds fetching ect. Has a great hunt pattern to him. Had him in SD for pheasent and he work back and forth between 3 hunters he was born to it.

You give them a fair chance to get with the program but if they don't.

But if he would have been gun shy and would not respond to training ect.

They take a long walk and don't come back.
sounds like you and Michael Vick have a lot in common.


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Nope never fought a dog or did any dog fighting. I treat my dogs very nicely.

But I will not have a worthless dog around.
 
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Not fair to bring up Vick as he won't have a chance to kick the Cowgirls ass this Sunday since the Birds are starting Kolb.
English pointers, GSHP, Labs, Goldens, Beagles, bassets can't be beat. Missing a bunch I'm sure depending on what you want to hunt.
 
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Most any dog can be trained to tree squirrel, as just as many squirrel dogs tree by sight as apposed to smell. The diffrence is how much time and devotion you want to spend teaching the dog. Blood trailing is another story, for this you need a dog with a good nose and not all of them can be taught. Anything from a rat terrior to a lab could work in that department. If you don't want to use an intensive search I would look at dogs that naturally have good noises, but not necessarily are high in the family pet catagory. Such as curs, blue tick, walker, beagle, red bone, or a catahula. I own a catahula right now that I rescued, she has a great nose and makes a good family pet and watch dog as well. Her owner did not want her after he found out she is gun shy, but she is a great tree dog and good at scent. If you pick a lab, and they are a good choice I have had many, but want to use it as a hunting dog you need to try and pick one from proven hunting stock. I had one that was a great blood dog, but she was the only one out of the four that I have owned. In our area labs have been overbreed for the pet trade and many don't have alot of hunting traits left. That's not to say they don't make good family pets, they certainly do, but just don't assume that it will make a good hunting dog because of the breed.
 
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A guy went out coon hunting with his buddy. He was impressed with the guys dogs. He asked what breed should he get to make a good coon dog? The guy told him breed didn't matter but the dog had to have a long curly tail and a great big rectum. If not would not be a coon dog. With this in mind the man went looking for a dog. He saw a curly tailed dog standing by a fence. Got out and looked and it had small rectum. That dogs owner walked up and asked if he could help the man. The man told him he was looking for a coon dog. The owner assured him that was a good coon dog and he would sell it. The man said that is not a good coon dog. Dog's owner said how so? Guy said dog had to have a curly tail--like that dog and large rectum and this dog had small rectum. The owner said I was going to tell you about that. There is a wrench that goes with him and I have him adjusted for squirrels right now. So I guess you need a dog with a curly tail and small rectum.


Rectum hell, damn near killed him.... jumping


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Ok, would this be *likely* to work. They say it is a blue tick hound/rottweiler cross. He is at the shelter where I volunteer sometimes. About a year old. I'd rather save a dog from the shelter if I can do that and still get what I want.
Any quick test, or traits to look for?


Frank i sure hope you got that dog. He is beautiful. I think most any dog that is attentive and shows confidence could be trained to tree a squirrel. Add in the fact that you have Bluetick (great squirrel dogs) and Rottweiler (great protectors) you may have the perfect dog there.
I will say this, my Bluetick is a cat killing machine. This has more to do with I never discouraged him from it as a pup.
As far as Blueticks in particular there are rescues for them as well as most other breeds as well.
Good luck and I hope your new dog brings you as much joy as "Steel Blue Ruger" has to me.
 
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My Beagles chase squirrels all the time. Today they caught me a rabbit and I didn't even have to fire a shot. I just had to get out the door and take it from them before they tore it apart LOL.


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