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Damned hard thing. I always liked this sweet, simple Burl Ives homage: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dxJNFQBC5G0 There is hope, even when your brain tells you there isn’t. – John Green, author | ||
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I’ve loved a lot of dogs over 74 years but the current one will probably kill me when it’s time. He’s just a mutt ( although he looks like a miniature golden retriever)that someone dumped in our yard 6 years ago as a 6-8 week old puppy but somehow he has stolen my heart. I simply can’t fathom not going for our usual morning ramble around the farm……..God help me when it’s time. Vote Trump- Putin’s best friend… To quote a former AND CURRENT Trumpiteer - DUMP TRUMP | |||
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The only thing that saved me from never owning another dog was already having the other dog. If I hadn't had that other dog, when Chama died I would never have gotten another. Rips the guts right out of you when they go. After she died,I did rescue down in the Four Corners, visiting the pound twice a week on the nights before kill days. I placed a lot of dogs but no one wanted the old dogs so I ended up with them. I'd have 8-10 dogs in the house. But I loved those old things and I sure learned a lot about grief management taking those guys in. They'd by 8-12 years old and not have all that long. But it was worth every tear. And its something - ironic, serendipitous, whatever - but Blue was one of my favorite songs for part of the grief management. Chuck | |||
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The 3 three of you you on this thread must be great guys. Anyone who like dogs like this, must be good! I have 2 dogs (2 and 3). I do not even want to think about the day when they are gone. It will probably kill the other dog, when the first one goes. It's too bad that dogs cannot live as long as us. | |||
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Its an awful shame they don't live long enough! You're right about the other dog, too. They bond just like we do. It will be really clingy is my guess, and depressed. Think puppy. Or older dog that no one else wants? My oldest will be 12 this spring. A scary thought for me. Her grandma lived to 14.5, though, so I'm hoping its a long time in the future for her. Chuck | |||
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That is so true! Once we lost our last dog-a chocolate lab that had pointed and retrieved literally hundreds of pheasants for me, I said that is it with dogs. He was the best family dog and protector as well. I don't want a dog to outlive me, and that's a possibility at my age. | |||
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We have had several and lost last one prematurely. Was very torn as to getting another because it could very out live me but did it. He is a very big part of our lives and is a good hunter. My sister told me a long time ago that she held her dog(s) when put to sleep and I thought how could you do that. Then our turn came and it was clear that is the only way. Zim 2006 Zim 2007 Namibia 2013 Brown Bear Togiak Nat'l Refuge Sep 2010 Argentina 2019 RSA 2023 Tanzania 2024 SCI Life Member USMC | |||
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Couldn't agree more! The pain is intense, but I sure believe the dog deserves it and it ameliorates the pain downstream. Chuck | |||
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Our last one we cradled in our arms, then the vet took his finger off of the tube inserted into the dog's paw which gently released the drug and the dog just quietly went to sleep for the last time. It's hard, but it's also the humane thing to do. I had a secretary years ago that had a poor dog that was dying by the day. She, selfishly, could not bring herself to take the dog in and put it down. She caused more suffering to that poor animal than anything else in the world would have done. I actually felt sorry for the dying dog. | |||
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Yes, seeing and feeling the peace and release is cathartic in some measure. I loved how this guy said a longer goodbye: https://www.foxnews.com/lifest...f8oLrP8FxQ-_21zA-P2o There is hope, even when your brain tells you there isn’t. – John Green, author | |||
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I think the best way for a hunting dog to go is to man oneself up..take the dog to the forest or hunting ground and to shoot him/her.. it is a hard thing to do (not sure I will be able to do it when the time comes).. | |||
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Pondoro, I think that is complete bulls--t. Reminds me of the Field and Stream contributor who always wrote the last page of the magazine. He wrote a story saying the same thing ie. took his hunting dog out and shot it "so that the last thing he heard was the sound of the gun" or words to that effect. The response from the readers was the same as mine. I think he lost his job. Deservedly too IMHO. I tell my dogs that they are going to sleep, and when they wake up I will be there, as always. Peter. Be without fear in the face of your enemies. Be brave and upright, that God may love thee. Speak the truth always, even if it leads to your death. Safeguard the helpless and do no wrong; | |||
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I totally agree with Peter. That's BS. That is something that was done years ago because you didn't have the money or it was a major movement to have the Vet do it. It was also the culture back then. I had a Brittany as a kid in 60's. Xmas Eve day in rural KS the paperman was blowing down the road chunking the papers. My dog like others was running loose like others. The neighbor called and said mine he had been hit. He ran over his hind quarters. I wen and got him and begged my parents to take him to the Vet. They told me they couldn't afford it and he would never be right also. My Dad and I loaded him up and took him down the road with the shotgun. When we got to the spot, my Dad asked me if I wanted to do it because it was my dog. I lost it. The School bus turned around there and every day I looked down in that draw looking for him. In this day and age if you can't take your buddy to the Vet and hold them and get a painless injection and they just drift off. Other than that it's just wrongheaded! Exception, if for some reason you would be way out and the dog is suffering greatly couldn't carry, then it could be an option. I guarantee you that if you care/love your buddy it will be etched in your mind forever. Zim 2006 Zim 2007 Namibia 2013 Brown Bear Togiak Nat'l Refuge Sep 2010 Argentina 2019 RSA 2023 Tanzania 2024 SCI Life Member USMC | |||
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I have been down both roads. Both are gut wrenching. I hope I never have to shoot another dog. | |||
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Vets just prey on people emotion's. Then laugh all the way to the bank. My cousins called me to put his lab down. I think he said the vet want something like $150.00 during normal hours. Then because my cousin decided, it had to be done outside normal hours there was a sure charge of almost double. I didn't even charge him for the .22 shell. I only have had one dog die of natural causes. Went to the kennel one day my 12yoa short hair was dead. All the others were put down. A well place .22 bullet to the back of the head Just forward of the craniocervical junction. works very well. Pay a vet it you want to. But In will not. | |||
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Its ironic, my password is a dogs name, likely the worse one we ever owned. My wife and I are in our later 60's and pet free. We like the freedom. I took a dog to the vets for a 'humane' euthanasia. That was that, so I thought. A later trip to the vet found me walking a regular 'male gotta pee on everything in the Vets office' dog to at least make it easier to clean up. I rounded the back and found a couple of trash bags, by the dumpster, apparently containing deceased dogs. I never had given thought to how they disposed of the corpse. So now, I will take a doddering, suffering old friend to the woods one last time. Have a bite of raw burger, and receive a 12 gage load in the back of the head. I will dig a deep hole and bury my buddy. I am breaking at least two laws, cruelty to animals and littering National Forest. Its bad to assign human characteristics to a pet. That is exactly how I would wish to meet my demise. I understand how many think being taken into a strange, sterile vet office they never liked in the first place is humane. To me it is assuredly not about money, its about the dignity my friend deserves. You will never convince me a dog feels pain in that millisecond it takes to remove his brain. I can then cry, as I am doing know, and give him a proper warriors send off. Thank you for reading and trying to understand my relationships with my past dogs. | |||
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A properly placed gunshot is extremely humane. May be a bit messy, but a high velocity bullet goes faster than nerve propagation speed, and intracranial surgery is done with conscious patients at times (so disrupting the brain tissue of itself isn’t painful). I don’t think I could do a good job shooting my own pup, but if you can, I have no problem with you doing it. I could certainly see where a dog would like to go out in a warm field smelling birds for a last time (yeah, anthropomorphizing here)… One of the hardest things to do is putting down your friend. | |||
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I don't think I could shoot one of mine but really guys? An f'ing 12 gauge shotgun ??? Don't you own a damn .22? "At least once every human being should have to run for his life - to teach him that milk does not come from the supermarket, that safety does not come from policemen, and that news is not something that happens to other people." - Robert Heinlein | |||
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I have put down several dogs. But it bothered me a lot when I had to put down 2 horses, not at the same time. That's something I don't want to do again ever. | |||
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Funny how animals affect us all differently.. I would not blink an eye at shooting a horse but I could never shoot my dog.. I guess the horse never curled up in my lap and looked up at me to scratch his ears... "At least once every human being should have to run for his life - to teach him that milk does not come from the supermarket, that safety does not come from policemen, and that news is not something that happens to other people." - Robert Heinlein | |||
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100%...though I would use a .38 revolver.. | |||
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Absoulutely YES to a 12 gage. As a youth, the neighbors had a farm dog that had 2 marks on his head where he had taken a 22 slug. Bad aim? Poor placement? 22 shorts? I don't know, but there is no way I would want a dog to turn and look at me after a 22 was not enough gun. A 12 gage is messy, ending a dog's life is messy. I am content knowing there was no chance of a miscue and its a messy, emotional time. | |||
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