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Anyone have one? Which L glass? Are we approaching Leica image quality yet? | ||
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There is a testing laboratory, which also makes RAW conversion software, called DxO. Their DxOMark site allows you to compare just about any particular camera, without lenses (sensor only) or with lenses. http://www.dxomark.com/Cameras...-M9-P___1009_963_721 Leica is a long way from producing the best cameras, in terms of capability. They're extremely well made, practically hand made, and solid. But we're no longer in the film age and professional photographers don't use Leica's digital cameras much. The technology makes a big leap about every two years and that's just not Leica's business model. _________________________________ AR, where the hopeless, hysterical hypochondriacs of history become the nattering nabobs of negativisim. | |||
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Yeah, with equal sensors, the Leica glass clobbers everything else. If you NEED tech or speed, Japanese cameras are the way to go. For what I do, the rangefinder is frustratingly inconvenient. | |||
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Perhaps, but they don't have equal sensors, so it's irrelevant if you are talking about the results you will get, rather than some sort of hypothetical theory concerning who makes the best lenses. Here's the full ranking list for all Nikon and Leica camera sensors tested by DxO Mark: http://www.dxomark.com/cameras...st&yDataType=rankDxo The best Leica camera body comes in 10th, behind 9 Nikon bodies that are less expenseive. But if you've got over 12K for a camera body and a zoom lens of modest range, then the Leica SL may be for you. I don't like EVF viewfinders so at even half the price it wouldn't be for me. Here's a short evaluation: https://luminous-landscape.com...hts-on-the-leica-sl/ But if you want to talk about lens performance, then here is Dxo's ranking of ALL lenses on the camera body that got the best results. http://www.dxomark.com/Lenses/Ratings But overall ratings are based on DxO's own weighting method of a bunch of variables. If you click on the "Sharpness" column heading it will rearrange the list to use only that criterion. And there, the resolving power becomes more a function of the number of pixels on the camera body than of the lens itself. There is no single criteria for "best". In terms of absolute lens performance on the best sensors Zeiss beats most, and you can get Zeiss glass for both Nikon and Canon camera bodies. But, they aren't autofocus and there aren't any Zeiss zooms available for those cameras. But if manual focus is your thing, and you don't mind paying the price, and don't need long telephoto, and don't need a zoom lens, Zeiss is pretty hard to beat. Of course, this can't really be demonstrated by posting a picture on the web. The better resolution wouldn't really be apparent on a web post. You would have to see it printed on a very large enlargement. But if you can find a review, or lab test, that shows that the Leica digital cameras and their lenses give the best results existing today, I would love to read them. _________________________________ AR, where the hopeless, hysterical hypochondriacs of history become the nattering nabobs of negativisim. | |||
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Yeah, all of that works if you're buying a review. I've owned piles of gear from most major brands, PAS to large format. I can tell ya that new Nikon gear is somewhere between Kia and Hyundai. The Zeiss MF lenses in Canon and Nikon mounts are not well reviewed by people who have owned them. They don't sell well for a reason even though they are relatively inexpensive. What I was hoping for here is some commentary from someone who owns the Canon and L glass. I suspect, the glass isn't up to par with the body. | |||
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I doubt that a lot of professional photographers lurk around Accurate Reloading, and even fewer amateurs would be buying that particular camera. It doesn't mean you can't find them though: https://blog.mingthein.com/201...ong-term-canon-5dsr/ Owning one doesn't make one a competent reviewer either. In the end, a good photographer will take good photographs, with almost any decent equipment, including Kia and Hyundai class equipment. But if you really want Leica lenses then the solution would seem to be simple, buy a Leica camera. I handled and tried out a Leica S (007) last November at the annual Paris photo show. Loved the viewfinder and that medium format look to the pictures, if someone slipped me 22K USD I would be tempted to buy it (body alone is around 17K). But in the real world I probably wouldn't take better pictures with it. https://luminous-landscape.com...-impressions-review/ _________________________________ AR, where the hopeless, hysterical hypochondriacs of history become the nattering nabobs of negativisim. | |||
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I'd prolly buy Pentax medium format first. More lenses avail now.  | |||
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The Canon 5DS-R is designed specifically for still photography (photo studio and such). But in relation to image quality compared to others, it's very difficult to tell by just looking at some lab image samples relating to sensors. For example, according to what has been written about sensor lately, Sony has been producing the best out there. But the sensor by itself is not the primary reason for all photographers to buy a certain camera. For example, if you want focus accuracy and speed for sports photography, most pros use the top of the line Canon cameras (DX-series) and that's why you see all of those white lenses at sports fields, racetrack, and so on. But if you are a landscape photographer where focus speed and accuracy is not needed, then you can probably use another camera designed for that. http://www.bhphotovideo.com/ex...d-action-photography And of course Canon has appropriate lenses for its cameras, and so Nikon and the rest. They all do. http://www.chasejarvis.com/blo...camera-part-i-canon/ World press photography (Canon has been king for quite a lot of years, but Nikon is getting closer lately): http://petapixel.com/2016/02/1...ld-press-photo-2016/ | |||
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FWIW, I'm not a commercial photographer. I'm just a guy that enjoys shutterbugging. I luv to hunt. In my old age it seems I shoot much more with a camera than a firearm. I thought about investing in one of 5DS models. Pondered for a while. Did the 7D MkII instead, I grabbed Canon 24-70 F2.8 L IS II and the 70-200 F2.8 L IS II series as consolation! I've enjoyed this kit yuuuuugely compared to the 2Ti and kit lenses that they replaced. Stumbled on an ef-s macro 24 mm 1:2.8 STM, an ef 50mm 1:1.8 STM, an ef-s 10-18 1:4.5-5.6 IS and a100 mm EF 1:2.8 Macro during the mean-time. Enjoying them also. The 24-70 has become my workhorse. Almost never use the 100 mm macro! May grab a 5dMk3 body after the first of the year. No full frame sensor in my kit yet! ya! GWB | |||
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