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I just got some Belisle foot snares to use for bobcats and coyotes here in Florida. They look like the perfect answer to the problem of horizontal sets in a state where only snares and live traps are legal. I've seen the video and have been experimenting in the backyard. My question is how to anchor the snare itself. The video isn't real clear. Do I only anchor the snare through the link so it's secure to the trap? Or do I have to secure the snare separately? Our season is Dec.1-March 1 for hunting bobcats and they're late primers, so I'm not in a big hurry. But I would like to get it figured out soon. Any help? | ||
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Only the snare has to be anchored. The belisle will remain on the ground or be kicked away, don't mind about it. My experience is only with foxes and badgers. They don't pay attention to the Belisle, they are too invested in chewing the snare. J B de Runz Be careful when blindly following the masses ... generally the "m" is silent | |||
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Thanks for the response. That's how it looked like it should be. But the instructional video pretty clearly shows the snare attached to the Belisle and the Belisle is supposed to be anchored. When I tested it, it doesn't look like the snare would be drawn tight that way. If I anchor the snare it looks like it would draw tight. I just hope they work. We have a lot of bobcats here and I know a very effective set, but it is dependent on a horizontal device. I'll let you know if it works. Do you trap those foxes and badgers in France? I didn't even know there were badgers in France. | |||
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Lots of badgers in France. In most of the country they are protected, what is a non-sense. As people don't see them, they are nocturnal, they pretend them endangered????? Where I hunt, badger is protected in half the area. Where he isn't protected, one can shoot it or dig it out from dens. Trapping isn't legal. It results that when a badger is trapper you have to free it. As a badger is as hard as a log, it's tricky to immobilize it. Not as hard as freeing a wild cat but nothing pleasant. Some badgers weights 40lbs. That's something. The first reports of badger hunting appeared in 1560, thanks to Jacques du Fouilloux. And even a girl to attend the hunter is required And even a girl to attend the hunter is required The Belisle is one of the most used traps in France. Personally I let down because there are too many wild boars roaming everywhere and they do play havoc with Belisle. Snares are better and won't strangulate a boar. J B de Runz Be careful when blindly following the masses ... generally the "m" is silent | |||
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Thanks, jbderunz, for all the super interesting information. I particularly like the idea of a girl attending the hunter being required. That's very civilized and generally a good idea. Now, if I can get my wife to go along with it we may have something. We have the same kind of thing about species supposedly being endangered. Florida was said to have only 36 panthers (cougars or mountain lions, all the same animal) at one point. At that time my friends and I had conclusive evidence of panthers in areas where they weren't officially supposed to be. The problem is the panthers don't get the wildlife department memos and keep on reproducing and spreading wherever they want. But what does a cat do best? Avoid being seen is the correct answer. And now there are game departments all over the eastern US who have to admit the eastern cougar is real when they get hit by cars, etc. Good luck over there and I'll post something if and when I get something in the foot snare. | |||
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Dagga Boy It's real news that cougar is spreading all over Florida. It wish it's also all over the USA in order providing more trophies for hunter. I fear that farmers don't share my opinion When in Burkani Faso, I was seeing leopard's footprints every other day. Nonetheless leopard is protected. Lion were less abundant but are shootable on quotas?? Last week I discussed with a hunting agent. He told me that he was offered some "tigro" shooting (Jaguar) in Amazonia. This cat is fully protected in the whole South-America but farmers are fed up with tremendous depredations. I think that this illegal hunting is organized by the desperate farmers. J B de Runz Be careful when blindly following the masses ... generally the "m" is silent | |||
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jbderunz, I know this is getting off the original topic, but it's a field I've followed for a long time. It seems you and I share a passion for the cats. When I hunted North Dakota 6 or 7 years ago there was talk in the newspapers about whether a cougar had killed a horse in central North Dakota. They've since opened limited cougar hunting and have taken quite a few. I'm sorry I don't have numbers, but that's just one relatively new hunting opportunity. I believe South Dakota has allowed some cougar hunting in the Black Hills recently as well. What's even more interesting are reports from the eastern US, and I won't be surprised if they become frequent to the point that we have some hunting soon there. The food base is sky high, so it stands to reason that predator numbers are up. I've been working in a hunting related store in Miami, Fl for over 20 years and get a lot of feedback from Central and South America. There are LOTS of jaguars and it's a crying shame that ranchers feel the need to shoot and bury problem cats. I know quite a few people who'd pay $20,000 or more for a jaguar hunt if they could do it legally and import the trophy. And you're right, I don't know anywhere that it's legal at this time. It's an issue that we may be able to change if we all got together and pushed. Oh, and when you say Amazonia, did you mean Brazil? Because I'm pretty sure Brazil has no legal hunting at this time. Not that people don't hunt. But I believe it's officially closed to hunting. Here in the States if we try to bring in a trophy that is not legally taken there a severe repercussions. | |||
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Hi Dagga Boy I am most please to see that we share the same ............say mild madness. Really fantastic news that evidences emerge that couguar is keeping his ground and perhaps prospering in the States. The best way to judge it is, I agree, to let it hunt on prudent quotas. I don’t doubt that as soon as the couguar will be valuable and coveted, the estimation of the population will be wisely considered. As always, if one let the hunters manage a game, the very game is fast and easy joining the huntable species. There are almost no exceptions. Just common sense is required, what’s the bottom line of the hunters but a tough prerequisite for the administration. About jaguars, I am content that an almost insider can validate that jaguar isn’t endangered. The awesome news being that people are heartfully happy to spend 20 k$ for a cat. Can You imagine what represent this sumn for the poor suckers back there in Brazil who are struggling to have a sub-decent living and to protect their stock against the cunning of jaguar. I am not a connoisseur of jaguar but know quite a few of the leopard. I suppose that they are in the same league. When they are no signs of their presence, be extra sure that they are present and damn active. For the moment, I have no clues about legally hunting jaguar. For the years to come, it’d be crass naivete to believe that jaguar hunting will open. Don’t forget that we live an alarming PC period. I imagine what can happen to the fool who’d import a jaguar’s hide in the States. The same in Europe, we are from the same breed, acting abiding to the book. Nonetheless, there are scores of farmers in Brazil requiring our coming to have them rid of a pest they used to call “tigroâ€. Good luck my friend the last good news is that we both publicly display our Email. J B de Runz Be careful when blindly following the masses ... generally the "m" is silent | |||
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