That's very neat, Have never seen a double on fox before

Are you still allowed to use gintraps in france?

Jean-Bernard,

Give us some more information. I'm trying to understand what's in the photo. Are these two foxes constrained by a trap?

My friend sets 2 traps at his dirthole sets here in PA and has taken 5 doubles in 3 years..I reckon they either travel in pairs or the trapped one attracts its buddy (as long as it didn't snap the 2nd trap already)

Belisle foot snare is my guess. Nice catch!

Nice double! But why three vehicles? I guess trap thieves aren't common in France. However it may be two vehicles of armed body guards to protect you from the tree huggers.

Well done

Sorry guys

Please forgive my poor English.

I haven't visited this post for a while that's why I didn't answer. Just looking for private messages I saw that Minkman had an enquiry......a while ago. Shame.

In fact it's the dunghill technique.

One piles some manure and on a regular basis, one places some foods scraps or dead animals (chicks, entrails of game….). The fox is always attracted by dunghills first, and even more when scraps are regularly put at its disposal. Some rusted pieces of steel are good for the fox to be accustomed to its scent, that way not being deterred by some trap's scent. When the fox is addicted, any trap will do.
In this case 3 Belisles were set and bingo 2 foxes were trapped.
As it was unusual, the proud keeper called a couple of friends to show them his catch and to get pictures.
This type of trapping is perfect in plains country, not close to a forest as wild boars, known scavengers, would be caught and maybe scampered off with the trap.

In boar country, one uses snares. In France snares should be rigged with a stopin order not to strangle the fox. Snares should not kill. Badgers and wild cats aren't not allowed to be trapped, they should be released (No fun at all especially alone at dawn). The bottom of the snare should be at a height of 18 to 22 cm and preferably not on roe, deer or boar trails, to be fairly selective.








fox snaring



In this case the forest is fairly far, about one km. Dunghill trapping is OK.

Gintraps are illegal.
Exception is the Belisle which is derived from a gintrap.



vid : Belisle in the sand pile technique



Another exception is the egg-gintrap to catch marders in houses and gardens. When a marder picks the egg, some weight is relieved and the gintrap is triggered.





vid : marder caught by an egg gintrap



egg gintrap housed in a box

This technique, using a zig zag, is to prevent dogs, cats from getting caught….and kids to mess with traps.

None the less, I have still a couple of illegal gintraps for desperate situations, don’t air it on the web 


To answer Minkman, I am not a trapping dealer and I have no furs to offer. I trapped quite a few, mostly using snares to curb down the foxes preying on our hares and partridges. Now the keepers do it.......but only a couple of weeks in the year.....some bursts of trapping as they get fast fed up with waking very early. Legally the traps should be checked at dawn before full light causes the trapped animals to stir a lot and suffer or even for the non snared, to bite a paw off and get away on 3 feet.
I keep on trapping marders for friends and neighbors. I am using the egg gintrap or conibears. I used either a baited conibear or
a baited conibear in a box, a conibear in a false beehive (a box contained honey or honeycomb) or a conibear on the marder's trail. Often marders let their footprints where the climb a wall. Mostly along a rain gutter. The conibear is rigged with a clamp to the rain gutter on the marder's trail.




I don't use the garbage can technique
garbage can technique.

According to the ol trappers, when You fail to trap a marder in a house, turn to the Triple fishhook technique. Only home or in the attic for not trapping pets. Set a baited Triple fishhook on a line at a height of 40 cm. The marder has to jump to gulp the bait and remains hanged up, its feet not touching the ground. The marder is owned. Of course strictly illegal.

YOU ARE INTERESTED WITH TRAPPING IN FRENCH SPEAKING COUNTRIES (France, Belgium, Switzeland, Canada…)
On web TYPE the WORD PIEGE which means TRAP, PIEGEUR which means TRAPPER


Good luck, kind regards
Jb

Thank you for sharing. I am not a trapper but what you wrote is very interesting.

Jim

Great info jbderunz, I had no idea that trapping was still practiced in Western Europe.

Have you ever had a subject bite off it's foot to escape? As a kid, we learned to use weaker gin traps to prevent wring-outs caused by the trap breaking the bones. I didn't know that there was an issue with this in the foot snares. Forgive me if I missed the sense of your explanation. Thanks