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we have kid goats and a calf in a 3 acre field now. A shepard/wolf mix with a collar has came after the chickens and ducks in the same yard.

Sad, but I am not willing to loose my animals because someone else cannot take proper care of theirs.

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Posts: 3284 | Location: Mountains of Northern California | Registered: 22 November 2005Reply With Quote
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Dogs are dogs! You can't manage them 100% of the time. Kinda like kids. Somebody shoots my favorite dog had better watch his back.


Get it straight, mister, it's a matter of being responsible to control your pets.

All I can say is, if anyone claims to have a favorite dog but lets it run uncontrolled, I'd question how much he actually cares about the dog.

The way I'd handle it is, if a dog is running wild, find out who the owner is and talk to him. If the animal is not causing damage, use non-lethal means of discouragement. If the animal is causing serious mischief (running livestock, eating chickens, etc.) and the owner won't do something about it, SSS.
 
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I have favorite goats that stays behind my fences and do not leave....my dogs stay here as well and has never gotten out.

The law says you must do the same with your animal, especially dogs, and if yours attacks mine at my place, well I can defend my livestock with deadly force.

If someone has a favorite dog then they should treat them like a member of the family and not let them run wild. We are in the middle of cattle and sheep industry, as well as both dairy goats and cattle here. Your dog would be dead and you would be in court facing damages for those behaviors here. I have seen it several times so far and the results are the same. Busted!

Threats are awesome. The ones posted above in a case like this will get yourself time in the county, or at least probation.

In the area I live this is taken EXTREMELY seriously and I wear a badge for both jobs . These animals are livelihoods not just things to look at on the farm. They might be our pets, but they are work as well.
 
Posts: 3284 | Location: Mountains of Northern California | Registered: 22 November 2005Reply With Quote
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A friend of mine was scouting deer after the season and came on a state game biologist with three dead dogs he had just shot. The biologist had seen them chase five deer into the snow drifts and kill them. I have to wonder how many deer these dogs had killed over the years. The biologist even knew what farm they came from, they were somebodies "pets" and on their own property, however in that state it is legal for state employees to kill dogs that are chasing deer. I hope they sent the landower a bill for the deer and the ammunition. My friend asked the biologist what he should do if he saw dogs attacking deer and he told him to SSS.

Bet if you start looking you will find a simialer law in every state.
 
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I'm a dog lover (Last year I paid $4,000+ for emergency throat surgery on our 13 year old Australian shepard) but I have (and will) kill any dogs that are chasing/killing livestock, of any type.


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Posts: 12762 | Location: Kentucky, USA | Registered: 30 December 2002Reply With Quote
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I just received a voicemail from my 30acre fair weather weekend warrior neighbor. He was in a tizzy because MY dogs (a 3 legged pyrenese and a 4 legged one) had ruined HIS deer season. He stated my dogs would sit or liedown on MY side of the fence and bark at him from the time he went to his deer stand until he left it, scaring HIS deer away! He went on to state that he was going to resolve the situation and that he had the soulution.

My dogs have the run of the 600 acres +/- around the house. They bark and keep the hogs away from the garden, patrol the fences, bark at strangers, strange cars, low flying planes, black seagulls (aka buzzards) and keep the porch from flying up into the sky. They dont chase chickens, cats, goats, sheep, cows, deer, horses, kids or people.

I checked the fence line and found his deerstand not 40ft off the fence. Also I found he had cut trees and branches on myside of the fence and tied up the bottom of the fence and a trap on his side of the fence baited with meat.

What do I do at this point?


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Posts: 63 | Location: Texas | Registered: 08 November 2010Reply With Quote
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Catch his cat or dog and put it in the trap! You could cut some branches on his side of the fence; the one with the tree stand in it. Sorry but I have a hard time dealing with bad behavior. Probably better talk to him first. Tell him to stay on his side of the fence and you'll stay on yours with your dogs. If my dog is causing trouble with someones livestock I'll kill it myself. But if someone fixes the fence so it will get out then intentionally catches it in a trap they got trouble coming.

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Posts: 1381 | Location: Mountains of North Carolina | Registered: 14 January 2008Reply With Quote
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I just received a voicemail from my 30acre fair weather weekend warrior neighbor. He was in a tizzy because MY dogs (a 3 legged pyrenese and a 4 legged one) had ruined HIS deer season. He stated my dogs would sit or liedown on MY side of the fence and bark at him from the time he went to his deer stand until he left it, scaring HIS deer away! He went on to state that he was going to resolve the situation and that he had the soulution.

My dogs have the run of the 600 acres +/- around the house. They bark and keep the hogs away from the garden, patrol the fences, bark at strangers, strange cars, low flying planes, black seagulls (aka buzzards) and keep the porch from flying up into the sky. They dont chase chickens, cats, goats, sheep, cows, deer, horses, kids or people.

I checked the fence line and found his deerstand not 40ft off the fence. Also I found he had cut trees and branches on myside of the fence and tied up the bottom of the fence and a trap on his side of the fence baited with meat.

What do I do at this point?



OOoooh, I hate fence row hunters! Your dogs are doing their job on THEIR property. Get photos and video of all of it, have the local LEO's out to make a report. They will probably pay the nasty neighbor a visit to discourage his activities.


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Posts: 19629 | Location: The LOST Nation | Registered: 27 March 2001Reply With Quote
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Here is a thought...

When I bought my place it came with some Llamas.

The previous owner told me that they had killed 2 dogs that came on to the property.

They are very protective. They are pretty good "watch" animals, and they are fearless.

Nothing gets buy them. If I see any 2 of them looking in the same direction I know they have spotted something.

They are not that much trouble to take care of, and they will keep dogs off your property.


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Posts: 16134 | Location: Texas | Registered: 06 April 2002Reply With Quote
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Sometimes my dog will run off. He is most all the time on the rope when he is outside. He will watch for an opportunity to zoom off when he smells a bitch in heat. . The problem is when he runs off I can't proctect him. And he can't do his job of protecting us. If someone shoots him it is his fault for running off. I'm not going to. b mad at someone for protecting their place..


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Posts: 3445 | Location: Copper River Valley , Prudhoe Bay , and other interesting locales | Registered: 19 November 2006Reply With Quote
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I just received a voicemail from my 30acre fair weather weekend warrior neighbor. He was in a tizzy because MY dogs (a 3 legged pyrenese and a 4 legged one) had ruined HIS deer season. He stated my dogs would sit or liedown on MY side of the fence and bark at him from the time he went to his deer stand until he left it, scaring HIS deer away! He went on to state that he was going to resolve the situation and that he had the soulution.

My dogs have the run of the 600 acres +/- around the house. They bark and keep the hogs away from the garden, patrol the fences, bark at strangers, strange cars, low flying planes, black seagulls (aka buzzards) and keep the porch from flying up into the sky. They dont chase chickens, cats, goats, sheep, cows, deer, horses, kids or people.

I checked the fence line and found his deerstand not 40ft off the fence. Also I found he had cut trees and branches on myside of the fence and tied up the bottom of the fence and a trap on his side of the fence baited with meat.

What do I do at this point?


Although I have a hard time believing you have a breed of Pyrenees that will chase hogs and not cats Big Grin, you are on solid ground up until the dogs cross that property line.

If the fence in question belongs to you and you have livestock behind it, your neighbor is looking at state jail time for tampering with a livestock fence. See TX Law concerning criminal mischief if you are so inclined..
I'd also make sure your property line is posted and you brush up on your trespassing laws.

AFAIK, there are no laws in Texas against baiting and trapping nuisance animals, so nothing you can do about that.
 
Posts: 348 | Location: North Carolina | Registered: 03 April 2009Reply With Quote
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Thanks for the great info! Local law enforcement seems receptive and is keeping in contact. The big dogs have never shown any interest in the two feline divas that honor us with their presence. The cats are pretty much bombproof thanks to a "busy" kid hammering and a chihuahua.


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