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Already has bit the dust....  It really had it's head stick in the trap, tough time getting it out, after killing it. Amazingly full of fleas too. Ermine smell awful, makes mink smell sweet. ~Ann   | ||
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They do smell bad dont' they? Be careful skinning it, if you hit the scent gland........you'll be sorrry! I was sitting way up in a tree when I was a kid and there was one on the tree beside me digging around and hunting for bugs, cute little guys! | |||
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Thanks for the warning, Chef. I plan to vaccuum seal it and freeze it whole until I decide what to do with it. ~Ann | |||
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Great job Ann. What kind of trap is that? | |||
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It is a small live trap. I had partially covered it with hardware cloth, rat wire, and need to completely cover it. The little murderer was almost able to get through the manufacturer's wire mesh. No Saeed, not a meal, these things smell awful. It's a very small animal to save the pelt for a possible fur clothing item. I may full mount it or have it done as a 'plushy'. ~Ann | |||
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well you caught the little monster! pound for pound the fiercest predater there is. member of the same family as skunks,badgers,fishers and such. hence the smell used to get 1.00 a piece for them,not worth skinning @1.00,but to a 14 yr old "professional trapper" success was the reward. your chickens thank you,nice work!! | |||
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Congrats! The territorial ermine may not have allowed others into it's area, but now that he/she is gone, there may be a replacement soon, especially if the food supply is still there. I'd reset the trap and keep it working. PS - I'd be really careful sealing that critter up - some really beautiful whiskers that might end up getting snapped/broken if you aren't careful. Will look nice as a full body mount. . "Listen more than you speak, and you will hear more stupid things than you say." | |||
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Thanks Eric, I will be careful when I package it (tomorrow). There were no new tracks today, my poor birds want to go outside and run in the snow. ~Ann | |||
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Ahhh! The sweet smell of success. Bfly Work hard and be nice, you never have enough time or friends. | |||
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I actually like mink musk, this critter is seriously gross. Are the glands worth saving once they are trapped? Seems like they expell the entire gland? ~Ann | |||
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How did you wack him? I think on those guys either gas them with the car or throw the whole trap in a pond. | |||
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It became aquatic, briefly. ~Ann | |||
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I hear they are worth about 4 bucks on the open marktet this year. We use to trap them by wireing some fresh liver to a victor rat trap. | |||
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Really? I sold it for $20. ~Ann | |||
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Dam you did real good. | |||
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Aparantly so! ~Ann | |||
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How do you kill them with a syringe? Even if in a trap can you get close enough to them? I've always just shot them in the head. | |||
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Attatched to a long pole. A really really long pole. | |||
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You attach the syringe to a 10 foot long pvc glueing the plunger into the pvc. You can cut it inhalf glue a coupler on to one section makes it easier to transport. Then when you approch the skunk your move into range very slowly talking in a low voice. Inching the syringe closer and closer to the skunk if they put up the tail you stop and talk to them when the tail goes down you move it closer. When you are with in contact distance you get the needle close to the chest stopping any time the tail goes up. When you make contact you slowly push the needle in injecting the killing fuild. I like to use acitone cheap easy to get. It can take awhile if you move to fast they well spray. You don't want to rush them. | |||
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Thanks for the explanation, guys! Guess I learn something new everyday. I've always just shot them from a distance but I never wanted to collect scent or a pelt, this sounds like a good way to do it if one did. | |||
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I'm neither a tree hugger nor a bleeding heart, and I've killed my fair share of critters so far, but drowning a caged/trapped critter just seems plain unnecessarily cruel to me. Could you not dispatch it in a way that at least caused somewhat less anguish? I mean, Jesus... And yes, I am familiar with drowning sets for beaver and the like, but those don't get subjected to the panic of a human's presence first. I dunno'. Just strikes me as totally without compassion. No offense meant Ann, truly, but I always try to minimize suffering when killing. Drowning a caged animal, while clearly effective, just seems... wrong to me. OK, asbestos suit donned. Awaiting the tarring and feathering... ______________________ Hunting: I'd kill to participate. | |||
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You could have fooled me! The very small town I live in has a few skunks that live in/under abandoned properties and the method of disposal is to use bacon grease soaked bread in a live trap with a 50' cord attached. Once a skunk is inside the trap, we use a garden tractor or ATV to pull the trap to the local creek and drown the skunk. When you live trap a skunk, you may dispose of it anyway you like! /////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// "Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery." Winston Churchill | |||
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Yeah, no shit. But making a critter suffer unnecessarily sounds about your speed. You're a real badass, BTW, skunk slayer. ______________________ Hunting: I'd kill to participate. | |||
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Kamo Gari, I'm curious....how much are your PETA dues this year? Not that I'm interested in joining mind you! /////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// "Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery." Winston Churchill | |||
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I have no problem with drowning skunks or chicken killing weasels either, for that matter. It's a very effective method of dispatch and just as humane as shooting, poisoning, or gassing. | |||
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I watched the native population reduce an elephant (killed by poachers) and a hippo (killed by me) to nothing but mounds of semi-digested grass and bloody spots on the ground in a matter of hours, while perhaps killed for fun or ivory, over there it all gets used. | |||
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I think elephants have a bit more intelligence than I would be willing to kill! | |||
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For the record....I'll be happy to amend my ways if someone can tell me a better way of dispatching a skunk in a live trap in a small town..... Until then, I'll have no problem with the aquatic procedure.....call it waterboarding if you wish!  /////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// "Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery." Winston Churchill | |||
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Drowning is very quick, especially when the water temp is slightly above freezing. Kamo, you didn't read my first post, the critter was stuck in the trap. And, as a fur bearer, this is how many are dispatched. I guess I don't see your logic, if I trap a coyote or fox and it sees me coming at it with a gun to kill it there will still be fear and aggression. As you are a bird hunter, how might wounded waterfowl feel when a dog is bearing down upon them as they lie helpless in the water? Or do they just drown? I have a significant investment in my birds and will protect them. If it is a fur bearer, I will seek value in the animal, in this case for a mount, most taxidermists want them whole. When the weasel began eating my young cockerel while he was still alive do you think it felt remorse that it was exsangunating a living thing? Of course not. I do believe some humans over think the circle of life. Death is never pretty. BTW- 22WRF, elephants legally hunted are never wasted. They taste like beef (yeah baby, delicious) and sustain a lot of local villagers when some of us go hunt them. If these people and their families can rely on a diet of dried elephant meat, a native animal, then there will be less goats and cattle in the bush. Be very careful of the TV induced 'intellegence' and emotions assigned to certain wildlife. Film makers and so-called journalists/naturalists are faking you out right and life. Just ask Tim Treadwell, oh wait, you can't, he became a bear turd. ~Ann | |||
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The difference is that with the ermine's head jammed in the trap, you had an easy opportunity to simply smash his skull. Yet you chose to toss the cage in some water (I am making as assumption I realize)to drown it? Why? You were clearly upset at it, and proud that you 'owned' it, right? I guess there you have it. Maybe it makes no difference to you, but I will ALWAYS put the quickest end to an animal I possibly can. Drowning them just seems to be an unnecessary, and grisly way to kill them. An animal that catches a steel club to the head before having its neck snapped it a lot different--to ME--than having it trying fighting to breathe, desperately and frantically trying to escape. Back to my PETA meeting... Oh, and the difference between your example of a duck is false. I won't watch a bird struggle. I'll keep shooting it until it is dead. If it gets too far away, then the dog brings it back and if still alive, I kill it immediately. The difference is that with a wild duck, I have no control over it until I've shot it or had it in hand. A bit different with your situation, with a trapped animal, wouldn't you say? Carry on. ______________________ Hunting: I'd kill to participate. | |||
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That explains some of it! /////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// "Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery." Winston Churchill | |||
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A little testy, aren't you? You bet I was glad to catch it! My birds had been locked up for two weeks which shut most of my girls down from laying. ~Ann | |||
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KG, you are way, way, out of line. Ann, good for you. I would have done the same thing. Mike Wilderness is my cathedral, and hunting is my prayer. | |||
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I could not disagree more, but no worries. Drown away, everyone. Or may I suggest tossing the cages in a campfire, if the real issue is a matter of payback. That'd probably be just as easy and quick...  ______________________ Hunting: I'd kill to participate. | |||
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Oh what a life you must lead! /////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// "Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery." Winston Churchill | |||
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That's for sure. Drowning is among the most humane methods of dispatching a wild animal known. It's been proven time and again. It seems wild animals are not afraid of the water as humans are. | |||
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"Be very careful of the TV induced 'intellegence' and emotions assigned to certain wildlife. Film makers and so-called journalists/naturalists are faking you out right and life." No need to worry. My feelings are not based on TV induced intelligence and emotions assigned to certain wildlife. Although I have not observed them in the wild, I have other places, and I just don't believe in shooting them because I think they have above average animal intelligence. You can shoot them all you want if that turns your crank. | |||
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Good grief, I hope that the best we've got as far as defenders of hunting are a trifle more convincing than you, pal! ______________________ Hunting: I'd kill to participate. | |||
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Trapping! Not hunting! In this case vermin control, no difference than poisoning. Do you poison rats? What a horrible way to go. . | |||
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