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26 June 2010, 23:54
PRW
Any Advantage in Trading Up for a new 1895?
I have a 1983 vintage Marlin 1895 - wood stock, blued and micro groove rifling, of course. It shoots good, is in exellent shape, however the action is and always has been a little rough.

Been eyeing the SS models lately. The trade up would probably cost ~$2xx.

Is there an advantage in keeping the old model?

The current models have the cross bolt safety - which can be a hindrance, and the ballard rifling.

Opinions respected.

Phil
27 June 2010, 18:35
Mad Dog
Oh boy, tough decision. I have a GG, made when they still ported the barrels, and it has a cross bolt safety[which can be a PITA], that you can take out. I like the ballard rifling. I've used the rifle for bear/boar hunting, here in the states, and used it on a plains game safari in RSA to take 7 head of game.

Don't know if there is an advantage, you could always take your old gun to a smith and have him "slick" the action for you, or just go ahead and trade up. Just don't know if there is a real advantage or not.

Mad Dog
27 June 2010, 19:53
DWright
No reason to trade for a new one. I would slick up the one you have and grow old with it. The older one's are much more desired then the new. I've had both old and new, and much prefer the older rifles.
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28 June 2010, 04:56
dpcd
Keep it; smooth it up with some stones and emery paper; invest the $200 in ammo or a scope. Ballard rifling is no advantage with jacketed bullets; and I have good luck with the 12 groove rifling in the 3 old (1975 (one has 8 groove) ones I have. I know, they call it micro groove, but it isn't really when compared to the original 1950s era micro groove, which was about 20 really shallow "grooves".
12 August 2010, 03:15
Brain1
If you are going to shoot lead bullets, hard cast or not, the micro groove ain't too groovey. The ballard will shoot either well. If you only shoot jacketed bullets, stay where you are. I own a gun shop so I say go for a new one, or two.


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12 August 2010, 04:09
buckeyeshooter
I would say you have the 'better' of the 2 be happy and shoot it! The XLR's are heavier and they have the new 'lawyer safety' plus the fact that the quality has dipped with the Remington purchase of Marlin.
12 August 2010, 04:20
J.D.Randell
I have the same gun, I think 1978 vintage. The Ballard rifling is for shooting lead bullets in 44 mag. Microgroove works just fine for hard cast lead, but then I'm not target shooting off a bench here.

I found mine in a pawn shop, cleaned it up. Front stock was split and repaired. Someone painted it w/ "Varathane." We stripped that and went w/ Tung oil and Carnauba wax.

I don't put huge demands on this gun. It sits in the truck on camping trips, same caliber as the Smith 629 sidearm.

They're not making them any more.

I've never sold a gun that I didn't regret later. Never regretted keeping one. Nothing in the rules that says you can't own two.
13 August 2010, 18:22
tetonka
Just for info on Marlin l895s.
On late models with the cross bolt safety, if you don't like it, go to your local NAPA store and get an "O" ring that just fits in the recess of the safety d-tent. This will enable the safety to still be useful if you want it, otherwise the "O" ring will hold the safety in the "off" position so you only have to mess with the hammer. Cost of "O" ring under $1.
Other great mods are the Wild West trigger, one piece ejector and the larger loop lever.
Of Course if you have a vintage gun, don't mess it up. My 1895 GG is a "user" for close range pig and elk hunting in heavy dark timber with ported bbls. and all the above mods. Love It.
Good shooting

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14 August 2010, 23:32
buckeyeshooter
The best modification is the $15.00 Ludwig safety delete kit! Replaces that abortion with a blank that looks like a screw.
21 September 2010, 20:38
KY Jim
'Someone' ground off the safety on my 1895 and staked it in Fire position, and I have heard this is a Felony. Also, no gunshop will buy or pawn it, which is fine with me, but just wondered if there was any truth to this.
22 September 2010, 03:08
Brain1
No it's not a felony or even a misdameanor. It is however a really good idea as these are a not needed addition to an otherwise great rifle.


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17 November 2010, 00:09
gunslinger55
Where can you get this kit?

Thanks


quote:
Originally posted by buckeyeshooter:
The best modification is the $15.00 Ludwig safety delete kit! Replaces that abortion with a blank that looks like a screw.



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17 November 2010, 05:20
Mark
quote:
Originally posted by gunslinger55:
Where can you get this kit?

Thanks



http://www.leverguns.com/artic...crossbolt_safety.htm


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17 November 2010, 06:05
Idaho Sharpshooter
they are really going to give you $200+ and a new one? You could have it slicked up a bit and have Marlin put a new barrel on. And be happier. Old guns and old friends, not to be discarded lightly.

Rich
18 November 2010, 10:58
dla
The SS models are nice simply because they don't rust up like the blued-versions do when you forget and put them away wet. I own a SS 1895. SS 1895s tend to shoot screws loose, so a bottle of Loctite blue is a good investment (especially the loading gate screw).

Micro-groove shoots cast just fine - you just need to use the right size bullet. Marlin's ballards have the same issue - some 1895's need a 0.460" bullet to shoot correctly.

Most of the action stiffness is due to the bolt/hammer interface. Round off and polish that interface on the hammer and your action will feel much better.


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