Are these still in production?

Thanks,

Bill

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Even if the are, you do not want a new gun manufactured by Remington. Many issues with the barrel not being at 12 o'clock, unfinished machining and the attention to detail is very poor. If you want one get a gun with first 2 serial numbers of 92 and a JM stamp on the barrel. Marlin made by marlin!

Hi Buckeye

It's my understanding that the SBL began production in 2009, but Remington took over Marlin in Jan 08. My research has not revealed whether the SBL was ever made before the takeover. There may not be any pure SBL Marlins.

BUT, I can say that very few used SBLs are for sale on the auctions. And this very month an SBL described as "new" sold on one of these auctions for $1399! Some folks must like them very much!

I just bought a used one, yes, a Remlin, hence my interest.

Bill

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I bought a GBL. Love it!
First order of business was complete disassembley. Full cleaning and polishing of the trigger sear.
It makes 405 grain Buffalo Bore Ammo loads easy to shoot.

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Originally posted by Bill G. in Oregon:
Hi Buckeye

It's my understanding that the SBL began production in 2009, but Remington took over Marlin in Jan 08. My research has not revealed whether the SBL was ever made before the takeover. There may not be any pure SBL Marlins.

BUT, I can say that very few used SBLs are for sale on the auctions. And this very month an SBL described as "new" sold on one of these auctions for $1399! Some folks must like them very much!

I just bought a used one, yes, a Remlin, hence my interest.

Bill

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I think there was a Davidson's run pre remlin. But it would have been no more than 500 guns if it happened.
How does your function?

I bought one a couple of years ago. It was actually an ABL. Blue metal, blue/gray lam. stock. Great gun, great shooter. Carries nicely in these northern woods.

I have a pre Remington SBL. It shoots and function great. Also have a 44 mag, 357 mag and 22 all levers pre Remington. Great and accurate weapons!
My SBL is my bear gun when I'm out west in bear country.

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Originally posted by buckeyeshooter:
Even if the are, you do not want a new gun manufactured by Remington. Many issues with the barrel not being at 12 o'clock, unfinished machining and the attention to detail is very poor. If you want one get a gun with first 2 serial numbers of 92 and a JM stamp on the barrel. Marlin made by marlin!

Old news - time to get current. Joe at RealGuns did a review of this subject a while back - worth looking it up. Basically there were some crummy guns shipped during the transition and startup of the Remington line, but the guns shipping now are first rate.

I still see too many junk Remington made guns in the supply pipeline to risk getting one and I know what to look for. If you want to buy one feel free. Mine will be JM marked!

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Originally posted by buckeyeshooter:
I still see too many junk Remington made guns in the supply pipeline to risk getting one and I know what to look for. If you want to buy one feel free. Mine will be JM marked!

Fine. Then you will buy used. Marlin's been dead for some time now.

I don't know what this myth of Marlin quality is based on - they weren't that great in their prime. Remington is a far better manufacturer.

Remingtons's record is stellar. Just look at the 798 after they became the distributor. Or Bushmaster.

Remington/Freedom Group has patented the alchemy process whereby they buy gold and turn it into shit by moving production to the SE right to work states. Showed those evil unions.

Marlin quality is not the myth, Remington quality is the fairytale...

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Originally posted by Idaho Sharpshooter:
Remingtons's record is stellar. Just look at the 798 after they became the distributor. Or Bushmaster.

Remington/Freedom Group has patented the alchemy process whereby they buy gold and turn it into shit by moving production to the SE right to work states. Showed those evil unions.

Marlin quality is not the myth, Remington quality is the fairytale...

Yea those are amazing stories - and totally irrelevant. I'm not sure what happened in your childhood to sour you on Remington, but you might as well face the fact that if you want a new SBL, you're gonna have to buy it from them.

Marlin may have had decent quality in the 50's, but none of the Marlins I've purchased since the 70's have been anything to brag about. Some had design quirks that Marlin refused to fix, and some had over-sized bores, crooked barrels, trigger sears cut by a blind drunk on Friday night, wrong elevation ladders, etc. I've direct experience with everything I just mentioned. Now I'm mechanically inclined and hate dealing with dealers so I either fixed it myself or sold it.

In fact, the only Marlin I've ever owned that was just flat perfect out of the box is a Marlin 60 22lr semi-auto. I've never had to tweak or fiddle with it.

You ought to stop at your LGS and handle some of the new leverguns from Remington and see what you think.

Here are a few more..........
http://www.marlinowners.com/fo...-getting-better.html

The only thing you are correct about is Marlin is dead. Lemonington's are not cutting it, nor is the quality of the Remington product in comparison to what it once was.

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Originally posted by buckeyeshooter:
Here are a few more..........
http://www.marlinowners.com/fo...-getting-better.html

The only thing you are correct about is Marlin is dead. Lemonington's are not cutting it, nor is the quality of the Remington product in comparison to what it once was.

The thread you posted contained nothing but the moanings of a few old gumbies dreaming about what never was. Seriously, there's nothing relevant to that thread and nothing here.

You are imagining some sort of quality existed with Marlin. And now you think it is gone because of Remington. Boo-hoo Sally.

Well, I think we will just agree to disagree. Who the hell is Sally?

dla,

Remington is producing the cheapest firearms they can, from the cheapest materials and shoddiest workmanship in the history of the US.

Seen their newest turd, the 783? I think it is the follow up to their last jewels, the 710 and 798/799. They are being turned out in the Marlin/Remington/Savage plant. I love the Savage barrel nut system, it eliminates having to actually chamber and head space a barrel on a specific action. I expect them to make rifling an option next.

The only thing of a positive nature Remington has done since they were acquired by the conglomerate is make the $1500 +/- retail pricing on new CRF Winchesters a bit more palatable.

For me, the only two worthwhile choices these days, are old model 70's and commercial/military Mauser actions. I have a "thing" for fine walnut and rust blued steel, you see...

Not that it is relevant to anything about today's made-last-week guns, but Marlin turned out some very nice quality guns about 70-110 years ago. The last M1893 26" octagon-barreled .30-30 I owned had exquisitely fine machining and finishing. Better than my 1886, 1894, M64, M95, M06, M62 Winchesters. The only Winchesters I had back earlier-on which equaled the Marlins in fit and finish were my Model 63's.

I still own a number of Marlins in . 32 Special, .35 Rem, .338 Marlin Exp, .444, .45-70, and things such as that. They are from the 1950s up through maybe 2010. They are all put together right, show good machining, and have nice finishes.

Winchester had improved its lever action products until by about the time they ceased production of the .356 Winchester XTRs. After that was de-catalogued, the quality of lever Winchesters fell very badly at New Haven, not in the Japanese-produced guns by Miroku...a but at least in the New Haven ones I have which were made since then.

These lever guns of both brands were/are built for users, folks. They are not intended to compete with the artful mastership of D'Arcy Echols, David Miller, or any finely skilled custom maker.