I decided, that I need a new lever action rifle. One must say, it's very difficult to get a new Winchester rifle here in Germany. Especial with a octagonal barrel.
At the moment, there's a new Winchester 1892 short rifle with the round barrel for sell. .357Magnum..... Price is about 1350€. One of the 1 of 500 rifles, chambered for the .32-20, with octagonal barrel, for 1650, I lost. I was not fast enought.....


Buy or not buy......

Those sure are some nice looking rifles, I just wish Winchester still made them.

Steve......

I have original Winchester rifles and rifles made by Miroku. They all seem to be of good quality. My 1892 was made more than 100 years ago and still works fine, as do my Miroku made 1886 and 1895 rifles.
Good quality and good care make for long lasting guns.

The Miroku browning and Winchester 1892's in 44 mag and 45 Colt are serious hunting rifles. The 357 is capable enough, but the 44 and 45, especially with heavy 300+ grain bullets, makes these the equal of the original 1886 45-90 black powder express load. Such loads in the 45 Colt are +P and operate at around 30k psi. The Miroku 1892's are capable of a good deal more pressure than that, but they lose their fun factor well below the +p loads. If you handload the two big bores you have the flexibility of running 200 grain gallery loads up to 300+ grain Elk and Moose loads. If hunting is not your thing, and you don't handload, the 357 mag is the most sensible, in my not-so-humble opinion.

Thanks for replays.
I' m not a hunter. I need the rifle only for targetshooting at 25m and 50m. Big bores I have enough in my safes. And the .357 is easy to reload. And easy to buy.

Martin

Today, I got my new toy!

Congratulations, Looks like a winner.
Let us know how it shoots.

My granddads rifle is a mod. 92 rifle in 38-40, the bore is rough as a cobb but it shoots 2.5 inches at 100 yards with iron sights..not to shabby for a rifle with a serial number of 178, first year of production purchased through the state of texas when he was a Texas Ranger for the high dollar price of $7.50, with payments of 20 cents a month. The colt six shooter cost him $14.50 and 40 cents a month..He gave them to me and said I owed him $22.00, but allowed I probably didn't need to pay him for awhile. I ended up with all his Ranger guns, and will be putting them in the Ranger hall of fame probably this summer.

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My granddads rifle is a mod. 92 rifle in 38-40, the bore is rough as a cobb but it shoots 2.5 inches at 100 yards with iron sights..not to shabby for a rifle with a serial number of 178, first year of production purchased through the state of texas when he was a Texas Ranger for the high dollar price of $7.50, with payments of 20 cents a month. The colt six shooter cost him $14.50 and 40 cents a month..He gave them to me and said I owed him $22.00, but allowed I probably didn't need to pay him for awhile. I ended up with all his Ranger guns, and will be putting them in the Ranger hall of fame probably this summer.

Ray, that is neat! I find that sort of thing super interesting! I'm a big fan of Lonesome Dove and am currently reading Hell, I Was There - another amazing story (and true!).

So, I´m very satisfeed with the rifle. Very smooth action and no problems in function with factory or hand load ammo.
Here´s the best group I shoot today.

It´s a handload with 7grs N320 behind a 125grs XTP/HP. I tested also some 158grs Sierra HP and the Geco factory HP-ammo, with the same good results.