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I recently bought a Winchester 88. I bought an extra magazine and made a pouch for it that stays on the sling. This magazine stays loaded. Then it hit me that the magazine I'm using to hunt or shoot could also stay loaded but where to keep it? I won't leave it loaded and in the gun, I completely unload my guns. I don't like cartridge holders that go on the stock or slip on recoil pads as they discolor the stock. What I'm thinking unless someone has a better idea is make a second pouch that snaps onto the sling and will stay in the case while I'm using the rifle. When I'm finished place the magazine in the pouch and snap it back onto the sling. | ||
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1 - on the sling pouch already. 1 - not on the stock, so where. Does it have to be on the rifle or your belt? if rifle, that leaves the sling also. double pouch on the sling. - end to end for balance or - side to side. permanently on the sling butt end or forend . | |||
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How many shots do you need to shoot a game animal? I have never unleaded a rifle on anything but prairie dogs. So, for me, a second mag is never necessary. So, my idea, not needing a second mag in a hurry, is in my ruck sack. I do see young, inexperienced hunters think they need 10 rounds (or 30), at the ready, but old guys, only need one. | |||
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While I am convinced that a second magazine is utterly unnecessary, it should be pretty simple for any skilled leatherworker to make a pouch that can be clipped either to the sling or your belt using a couple of quality press-studs. I generally hunt with a single-shot rilfe, and carry one round in each pocket. Not because I feel I need that many, but just so I don't have to remember in which pocket to dig. | |||
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You guys are probably right that a second magazine is not needed. Peter Connan you are correct it is a simple matter for a leatherworker to make a pouch. This has been done. The pouch is for the second magazine and stays attached to the sling. My question concerns a second pouch for the magazine that was used after the shooting is done. | |||
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One shot one kill! No need for a second magazine or a magazine pouch! The magazine should be unloaded after each trip----NO MATTER WHAT THEY TELL YOU! And stored/seated in the rifle where YOU CAN'T LOSE IT! Hip | |||
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You guys are right the second magazine will probably never be used. Do agree if the magazine stays in the rifle it will be unloaded. | |||
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You mis-understand me. I am talking about a second pouch, which can be attached to the sling or the belt. | |||
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The only time that I have completely emptied my magazine in rapid shots on game animals was when we were hunting deer down in New Braunfels + a flock of turkeys came out in the pipeline. I shot one with my M-77 260 Rem. Carbine + the world exploded with turkeys flying everywhere. I shot two more on the wing, but realistically, even if that had been a detached magazine rifle, I would not have had the time to change it out. That action was very fast + adrenalin filled. | |||
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With the cost of replacing a mag that one lost. I would use a very secure belt pouch. I would not so concerned about a quick reload but, having a spare mag to replace one that was lost or misplaced. Rifles like the 88 make poor single shots. | |||
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Probably unloading the magazine and leave it in the rifle is best solution. | |||
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Best solution! If you must carry an extra magazine keep it in the coat pocket which is in the same side as the hand that you must release the old one. this way you take out the old magazine put in the pocket--take out the new one and insert it into the rifle! You are making too much tadoo about nothing!  Hip | |||
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first of all in my case I have no use for detachable magazines in a rifle. I prefer bolt action M-70s and Mausers, lever guns like Savage 99 and Winchester 94,86,71 and their ilk.. I carry a few rounds of ammo in a small light wt. leather case in my coat pocket, some times I use the 10 red plastic cartridge holder that comes in some factory boxes, other times just stick 5 rounds in my chaps or pants pocket. Its never been a big deal to me, but I guess that's just the cowboy in me.. Ray Atkinson Atkinson Hunting Adventures 10 Ward Lane, Filer, Idaho, 83328 208-731-4120 rayatkinsonhunting@gmail.com | |||
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Atkinson---Ray oh horror Savage 99c has detachable box magazine. | |||
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Philosophically, there is a question about leaving a loaded magazine, or even cartridges, attached to a rifle. Where will it be left in this condition and is it an added danger if some child or miscreant comes upon it? In our overly regulated (but comparatively safe) state a loaded magazine is considered part of some rifle even when detached. We are not allowed to walk along a public road with a loaded gun when out hunting and thus would be in breach of the law if found with a loaded magazine in a pocket. This is a PITA of course when crossing roads but is a serious attempt to thwart jacklighters/poachers and other bad guys. Leaving magazines loaded indefinitely is also likely to weaken their springs, a mechanical consideration that could eventually bite us on the butt. | |||
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Several studies have shown that leaving magazines loaded does very little to no damage. It's cycling a spring that weakens it. As for where to put the spare magazine, I have changed my mind. The best place to put it is in the gun closet back home. If you can't do the job with one you should probably stop shooting and evaluate what is going on anyway. | |||
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I was raised to NEVER chamber a round until Im ready to fire. So on that consideration I have zero problem with live ammo being in the magazine. I only have one magazine for my 88. What I do have a problem with is separating it from the rifle for anything other than loading or unloading it. If I did have an extra, which would be a plus, that would be a little different for obvious reasons. And when its time to go home, my magazine gets emptied. If I ever need something for home defense the 12 gauge is what I keep handy. AK-47 The only Communist Idea that Liberals don't like. | |||
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Wstrnhuntr--Your thoughts are pretty much the same as mine. I did get an extra magazine for my 88 and it stays loaded and in a pouch on the sling. I too don't chamber until ready to shoot. My thoughts were what was the best for the magazine I'm using. Keep it loaded and remove from gun or unload it and leave in the gun? I decided unloading would be best. A speedy follow up shot was not in the equation for a spare magazine. Shotgun hunting where you are limited to 3 shots doesn't make sense to me--I don't recall even using 3 shots hunting. | |||
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If you wait to chamber a round just before you are ready to shoot----the deer is three countys away! Get Real! Rifle and chamber loaded. finger off the trigger and mind on what you are doing----Not the sweetie next door! Hip | |||
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Hip--When I'm bird hunting I do have a shell in the chamber and finger on the safety. Almost all my deer hunting nowdays is taking youth. This is done from a stand and running shots not taken. There is time to chamber a round when the time comes. | |||
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Ive seen the Eastern woods. Not the same where I live. Once in a blue moon I will chamber a round in the thick timber when spidey senses are on high alert. Otherwise chambering a round only takes a split second, not hard at all. It is not unusual around here to spot a herd several hundred yds away with plenty time to set up a shot. AK-47 The only Communist Idea that Liberals don't like. | |||
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On the highway where westrnhuntr lives you will see all kinds of antelope many yards away. | |||
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The majority of my hunting g is done with o e if my Sauer 209’s in one flavor or another. The only time I have ever shot it day was doing some culling. Whether I have a 5 rounder in or ir a 3 rounder I keep a spare 3 rounder in my left side pocket. Magazines can get lost and they can get damaged. It’s in a simple nylon pouch that closes with a piece of Velcro. I have used it one time in all these years when I left the loaded magazine on the bedside table. Glad I had a spare. To me it’s just cheap insurance. DRSS Kreighoff 470 NE Valmet 412 30/06 & 9.3x74R | |||
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Carpetman, Yes Im aware of that abortioned 99C when savage droped the underlever safety, the brass rotor, went to cork wood, they ceased to exist in the Atkinson casa and I never looked back! I shoot and buy sell the oldies only.. Ray Atkinson Atkinson Hunting Adventures 10 Ward Lane, Filer, Idaho, 83328 208-731-4120 rayatkinsonhunting@gmail.com | |||
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when I hunt, I have a loaded gun on safety and ready to shoot..I unload it in the truck most of the time..I always know its loaded and where its pointed, the rest is over reaction hooey! An unloaded gun in the Bush or on Browdway is nothing more than a club of sorts. Ray Atkinson Atkinson Hunting Adventures 10 Ward Lane, Filer, Idaho, 83328 208-731-4120 rayatkinsonhunting@gmail.com | |||
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That reminds me of why we can't have pump-action shotguns here now. In every action movie it seemed some hero or villain would load the chamber of his riot gun at the last moment, instead of being fully charged beforehand as expecting action would indicate. 'Little Johnnie' Howard must have seen some of those and said Ban them, too! Fortunately, he and his 'advisers' had never heard of pump-action rifles, so we still have my son's Remington 35 Whelen. | |||
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My somewhat lengthy answer: I only use the magazine in the gun, I started that when I managed to lose my extra mag walking to a blind and with a rifle you only get one, maybe 2 shots after the first one anyway. Nowadays I'm OK with just extra shells in a pocket, though I did use a plastic ammo wallet until I realized they were just a fiddly extra also. Now I did just get a single shot that I put one of the stretchy elastic buttstock holders on, but that has a stainless barrel and a plastic stock so figured if you are wearing a clown wig no one notices the rubber ball nose anyway. If you are looking for a classy way to carry some ammo you can consider a buttstock trapdoor ammo holder:   However, if your heart is set on having the extra magazine in a leather pouch,might it be possible to have snaps so it could just snap back-to-back with your other pouch on the sling, and then you can pull it off when using the rifle? Don't have to use snaps, could use Chicago Screws to hold them together too but still be removable. for every hour in front of the computer you should have 3 hours outside | |||
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There is some merit in keeping ammo in a spare magazine, in that it shouldn't rattle there. Going hunting with nothing more than what fits in the rifle is not advised from a safety-and-strange-occurrences point of view. I recall Jim Corbett racing out with just a magazine full and running out in a dangerous situation. OK, you don't have tigers but on a continent with bears, cougars and jaguars, you might keep it in mind. Maybe PLBs and cell phones have changed the game forever but the Herter bros advised taking 18 rounds for signalling in case of emergency. | |||
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There is nothing wrong with a soft flexible cartridge belt or a chaps pocket with a 20 round box of ammo. Whatever blows yer skirt up!! Ray Atkinson Atkinson Hunting Adventures 10 Ward Lane, Filer, Idaho, 83328 208-731-4120 rayatkinsonhunting@gmail.com | |||
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