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With the safety engaged, when you pull the trigger and the hammer falls, can that lead to light strikes on the primer of a chambered round? Or does the firing pin not even come in proximity of the primer when teh safety is engaged? I think I know, but I need to confirm it without going out to the range again. ~Marcus | ||
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If I remember correctly the hammer is stopped short of any contact with the firing pin when the safety is "on". Try this [with an empty rifle of course], cock the hammer, put on the safety then with your thumb on the hammer release the trigger slowly lowering the hammer down, keep the trigger pressed to the rear, the hammer should stop before contacting the firing pin. DOUBLE RIFLE SHOOTERS SOCIETY | |||
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On mine the hammer stops well short of the firing pin, with a disconcerting "click instead of a boom". | |||
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Cross-Bolt Safeties on lever rifles (either Winchester/Browning's version or Marlin's) PREVENTS contact between the hammer and the firing pin. The hammer will still fall when the trigger is pulled. Personally I feel the halfcock notch is all the safety necissary on most lever guns, you'll have to search fairly hard to find more than a handful or Marlin owners that feel differently. Let me point out that a fairly popular aftermarket accessory for Marlin lever rifles right along with the "Big Loop" levers, Non-Floppy triggers and one piece ejector's is a blank off for the Cross-Bolt Safety... Is it overstating the obvious to comment that they wouldn't make them unless people were buying them? AllanD If I provoke you into thinking then I've done my good deed for the day! Those who manage to provoke themselves into other activities have only themselves to blame. *We Band of 45-70er's* 35 year Life Member of the NRA NRA Life Member since 1984 | |||
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Nn no I agree it's useless. I'm gonna look into that blank off piece, had never heard those existed. So we all agree that there i no ay the firing pin could make contact with the primer if the safety is engaged? Barring that the safety is non functioning. ~Marcus | |||
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I tend to amuse myself running down Marlins, But this time in their defence. . . If the safety is useless I guess you don't have to use it. If you then say it may be knocked on, well yes, and maybe it could be knocked off to?? I've never so much as seen one, but I guess it would be handy to use just for lowering the hammer down to half cock if that's where you want to carry it. In any case if it didn't block the hammer from the fireing pin, it wouldn't be much of a safety would it?? Heck, I'd be inclined to use the safety when carrying loaded either hammer back or down, it can't be that hard to use. | |||
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I'm not going to say an accidental discharge isn't possible, I will say that in over twenty years with three Marlins I've never had it happen, I've never had the hammer fall when I didn't want it to. I can barely imagine a situation where the hammer could fall from the halfcock notch. I've had people suggest that the half cock notch could "break off" the hammer allowing the hammer to fall, but to be honest I cannot imagine that happening without either explosives being applied to the hammer OR a bullet impacting (in flight) the hammer from the rear (and in the case of that last scenario my thumb hurts thinking about it) That being said only one of my three marlins actually has a crossbolt safety, my 1894C. AllanD If I provoke you into thinking then I've done my good deed for the day! Those who manage to provoke themselves into other activities have only themselves to blame. *We Band of 45-70er's* 35 year Life Member of the NRA NRA Life Member since 1984 | |||
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Yes but the dangerous time is when lowering the hammer to half cock position. Ie trigger held back, thumb slips, and bang.  | |||
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When slung on its carry strap I keep Mjolnir's chamber empty and magazine tube loaded. I lower the hammer to the half-cock notch over a chambered round when actively hunting. I admit I use the cross bolt when cycling ammo through the action to empty the rifle. Why not? When used only for that purpose about the only risk is that I forget to turn it back "Off" when done or that it gets bumped into the "On" position without me noticing. If a fella doesn't care to remove the safety then the most interesing option I've seen (recommended at Beartooth Bullets IIRC) is to turn the set screw deeper - making the safety harder to turn on and off without deliberate effort. Might try it next time I have the stock off. | |||
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Leverguns are the most dangerous gun to start a kid with, based on hunting acidents. People trying to raise and lower the hammer. Same problem with 1911s. Leave the hammer alone and carry C&L'd. Keep the Marlin safety and learn to use it correctly. It may save your bacon when you're trying to unload the rifle. Well, at least have an OK day  | |||
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I ain't a kid, and I'm not learning. The question has to do with something completely different; I've decide to just check out my littel question with another trip to the range when I get a chance. If you search my screenanme on here you'll find a picture of my lead slinger. Ain't no beginner's levergun. ~Marcus | |||
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First time I tried to lower the hammer on my grandpa's Win. 94 a couple of years ago it slipped and BANG. The gun recoiled into my belly and I saw stars. Only then did I look down and see the crater a couple of inches from my foot. I want to have a safety on my lever-guns that I ever get. Just my opinion. Love shooting precision and long range. Big bores too! Recent college grad, started a company called MK Machining where I'm developing a bullpup rifle chassis system.  | |||
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I never actually completely close the action when "Cycling" to empty it. you turn the rifle on it's side and muzzle up and short cycle it and they'll fall right out. I have hammer extensions on ALL my lever rifles (I also have a BL-22, my only japanese firearm) except my current Winchester 94, which incidentially I still haven't fired since buying it in June. AllanD If I provoke you into thinking then I've done my good deed for the day! Those who manage to provoke themselves into other activities have only themselves to blame. *We Band of 45-70er's* 35 year Life Member of the NRA NRA Life Member since 1984 | |||
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