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I see that recently the ugly subject of "Are there some cartridges for which it seems really easy to find accurate loads?" has risen its head again.

Over 70 some years of shooting, I have never had any trouble at all finding suitably accurate loads for these cartridges, regardless which rifles they were being fired from:

25-35 Winchester
30-30 Winchester
32-20 Winchester
32-40 Winchester
32 Winchester Special
33 Winchester
38-55 Winchester
45-70 Guv'mint

Got to thinking today about what ALL of the above cartridges have in common:

1. They are all rimmed
2. They all have moderate powder capacity for their bore sizes
3.Thy all shoot their "standard weight" bullets at modest velocities and modest pressures

They all do well with moderately quick burning rate stick powders, such as 4198, 3030, and 4895

Despite all the attempts to categorize them as "obsolete", almost all of them keep perking right along in the hands of hunters.

Are there any useful lessons in there?


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Posts: 9685 | Location: Cave Creek 85331, USA | Registered: 17 August 2001Reply With Quote
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You are right on the money.
I've more fun with large caliber rimmed lever action cartridges. 45-70, 405 Winchester and 45 Colt all were a snap to find accurate loads for cast bullets.
I've been enjoying a Winchester 95 in 30-06 using heavy for caliber bullets, 208 grain, using IMR-4895.

Jim


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Posts: 6173 | Location: Richmond, Virginia | Registered: 17 September 2000Reply With Quote
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I agree, I have a 30-30 SRC and a 25-35 SRC that Ihave handloaded for since about 1950, The 30-30 trapper SRC will consistantly shoot around an inch to an inch and a half at 100 yards with iron sights off the bench, and the 25-35 will shoot under 2 inches at 100 even with its rough bore..

My new old Mod. 71 Win. shot 3 to 3.5 inches when I got it a few weeks ago, but after considerable reloading and testing I got it down to 1-1/2 to 2 inches and it always puts the first two shots right together...

My Savage mod 99E, circa early 1900s competes with my best bench rest guns..It is a 250-3000 but I have never seen a 250-3000 that was super accurate.

I am talking 3 shot groups..I seldom need more than one shot on game, on ocassion two or three. 3 shot groups suit me fine on the Lever guns.

I think with most of the Lever guns, you just have to work at it most of the time, if you want one to shoot well, you can almost alway improve on factory ammo..


Ray Atkinson
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