What kind of accuracy do you get from original 1886 rifles in either 33 Winchester and or 38-56 Winchester at 100 yards (either cast or jacketed)?
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I've got very good accuracy with both of these in a 1886. I used Jacketed bullets in each. Hornady in the .33, and Barnes for the .38/56. My .33 is a light wieght Model that has some pitting in the bore. The .38/56 had a specail oder 28 inch barrel, and an excellent bore. Three inch groups at 100 yards with open sites is not hard to do.

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Originally posted by Jim M.:
What kind of accuracy do you get from original 1886 rifles in either 33 Winchester and or 38-56 Winchester at 100 yards (either cast or jacketed)?
Thanks!

I have valid data only for USRAC/Winchester M1886s. If you want these data, let me know.

My Browning M1886, .45-70 shootes with cast and copper plated lead bullets, with iron sight at 50m groups between one and two inches.(The problem is allways the man gehind the rifle )

Martin

I have an original 33WCF smokeless powder action with new barrel.It is not 100% applicable to the question. But it shoots better than I can hold it and certainly minute of game. I use Beartooth Bullets 235 gr cast flatpoint and the same style cast flat point in 240 gr. Pretty much a bang flop on white tail and probably larger game as well. Lots of moose have been dropped with the 30-30 before we "realized" we need bigger calibers for them. The 33 WCF surpasses the 30-30 by quite a margin. That is a 45-70 case necked down and somewhat tapered. Good luck with the 86. Packy

I have shot numerous 2" groups at 100 yrds with my 86 both US and Jap. models. The 475 Turnbull with both the 400 and heavier bullets shoot tioght groups. I could shoot it beter if I had a glass on it., I shot the 475 Turnbull at 300 yrds with iron sights and shot 2, 5 1/2" groups with the 325 grain bullets. It will shoot better than I or most people can.

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Originally posted by Doug Turnbull:
I have shot numerous 2" groups at 100 yrds with my 86 both US and Jap. models. The 475 Turnbull with both the 400 and heavier bullets shoot tioght groups. I could shoot it beter if I had a glass on it., I shot the 475 Turnbull at 300 yrds with iron sights and shot 2, 5 1/2" groups with the 325 grain bullets. It will shoot better than I or most people can.

Here is an unrepentant plug for Mr. Turnbull's 475 Turnbull conversions.

A friend in Darby, Montana, acquired a plain Jane 475 Turnbull with Marble's tang sight on a Miroku M1886. Jimmy and I, plus a friend of mine who regularly shoots 1000 yard black powder matches with a C. Sharps 45-70 took Jimmy's 475 out to an 800 yard range. The other two shooters were regularly hitting armor plate targets at 600 yards and 800 yards with the 475, targets I couldn't see without my Zeiss binocular. Before I witnessed the shooting, I would not have believed a lever action capable of such consistency.

I have a 45/90 [Moruko ??? [spelling??] 1886 shoots jacketed like lasers ! at 2240 fps !

My 86 will shoot better than I can hold it. I generally shoot 300 grain Hornadys over IMR 3031 at 2100fps. My limiting factor is my eyesight with the opens. Just can't see that well anymore. But the gun shoots great.

Check my other threads Jim.

Mine will shoot into one ragged hole at 50 yds using 300 gr FNGC with 15 grs of Unique and large pistol primers. No filler required.